Title: Boston Legal TV Podcast: A conversation with Billy Valentine, Boston Legal vocalist, with host Dana Greenlee; published May 12, 2006; 80 min.

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" Burn forestry and studios home of -- didn't athlete for by the -- Connected to Boston -- radio the official weekly audio experience of Boston legal it records from. Davie county television series that we don't know and love by Katherine United States funny BC. It's all over the world than South Africa now -- two -- everywhere. I'm David -- and today's Boston legal podcast. Just a little different it's a special feature -- look at the music of the series. And in particular man who helped shape that -- that distinctive voice you hear every week that enhances and underscores that I really think. He propelled the stories forward the story continues Allen and company."

" Do you know him well and before we get to know I'm a lot better today. First and going to let you listen to the opening seconds of the pilot episode from the first season of Boston legal. And was launched by the vocal styling is a part -- today. -- a little bit of now on -- Tara but none of the main voice you hear those spectacular -- of Billy Valentine welcome Billy. I had an opponent so happy so honored to be talking to -- right now at an article how do you know I'm I'm taking away from not only your work on Boston legal what you do once or twice a week and we'll talk more about that later but your busy moving as well you're down in California. Ends -- moving to a new home and we're working on that already this morning -- thank you for taking a few minutes without spike mark right. Hi how are you -- I'm doing great. It's sad because the season is winding down we have only a few more episodes left of Boston legal. But you can get a nice little break for your boys gonna."

" Yeah I get a chance the kind of."

" Come with you it would you know."

" Questionnaire relate -- as a singer you never really take a break -- of -- performing constantly."

" No I this is what I do for a living. I actually do it every week --"

" A different places around the Southern California."

" This complaint yeah. I think private event I do different club."

" And your performing that. This coming weekend why don't you just give a little tease for anybody what we'll talk more about that royalties for anybody is in the area wants from CN."

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" And if anybody's interest in learning more details on the front page of the Boston -- legal dot org web site. Really great to traffic corridor now with our web site and their music page you can find how to get there and into the restaurant first --"

" You can actually haven't going to tell you comment at 10 o'clock but when they the music star."

" That's the main course yeah. What do you contribute every week -- as. Amazingly unique hits it's not like nearly any other network television show it seems like everybody's pulling and mark. Music and popular music ten episodes. But it's a win it occurs that I find so interesting in this area. You're at the beginning you servicing the theme song yet. Your throughout the show not even just -- scene transitions but your voice and maybe pops up in the middle of a scene. I know and and that in the actual sort of safety more than dialect Kennedy ending imminent moves on in the news that you often are in the balcony scene aren't you who are."

" Absolutely I kind of you know put them. The whole thing has been buried -- initially kind of close it up."

" And it's not just your -- naked boys has a lot of interesting effects sometimes uses that phone modulation and that you kind of here. I mean is also just you this little bit aware that happens in the studio as well when you mussina."

" Yeah when you know -- I'm working with the actual music predict with any -- and -- a lot of great thing when it mindful."

" Billy a little back story I'm dying alloys and interested in hearing how you got involved and anybody else who got involved with Boston legal. We did you first hear of your opportunities that I was presented itself back in 2004 I think that's when the series started."

" Well that's when I heard about it actually heard about it as they were. Putting this -- together and and they needed good -- that I got a call from. From then we love. At this week to come in and they don't you think or wish you know."

" It was presented to the producers. And they haven't got what I did."

" I'd say no but -- so Danny was your conduit to Boston legal."

" Yeah I had worked on Ali McBeal. Was there any also worked on. Hand I just did a couple of sessions but that you know. And I think -- it had been the bringing it to eight which but he also didn't before I had the -- big."

" He has as a favorite singers and he brought you and hear our want -- and as far as you know maybe a few other people perhaps. Did the demo for the producers to listen to of that you got it Hester away or down. That's in -- you work primarily with Danny is that correct yes. And he's actually busy doing too little bit about Danny as well and -- and -- he does work for other says right now."

" Oh yeah he he worked well below his feet is it does for. --"

" Are all so my name is little."

" That probably -- a couple of other shows that."

" Well between now and possibly thus keeping him so busy -- our."

" They don't. Probably probably not more on -- because that's open -- more. Earlier this chose it basically scoring. But what we do it is better get -- but he -- any of the other."

" Let's let's Barbara collaboration between what you sing and his scoring and we never get to people the data that is going to be a little bit more complicated and more original so."

" You know what it doesn't -- right down the music -- the thing."

" And then I come -- and put my -- on."

" Are you a -- afforded a lot of leeway in how you are total 100% creativity in how you present your vocal."

" Oh yeah -- that created -- on my part comes up with Apple why did and we collaborate -- the other."

" Is the opening of its -- but the same. But generally the music think big and I go with I put my own thing."

" I that's a great EA doesn't trying corral you observe and banging your your watching the scene why he did -- kind of creating new listening to music so right here -- It."

" You know I know that musicians and vocalist did not like to be sort of pigeonholed to deter certain kind of thing -- your music and it's very."

" freestyle kind of ask dad how mean you -- and he's seeing. But why -- you to sort of I if you can't put them walls around your music can kind of tell us a little bit what parameters -- what what would you call your music that you do."

" Well our what I do on this show that basically you know --"

" We're in you know. Moan and groan."

" And every now and then I get the."

" You do it you know -- I would say that points -- and acting are not Boston -- would you say you're more jazzier -- the."

" Well first I yet understand that. I grew up as the rhythm and blues singer. And as I've gotten older -- spread out in is the American song book. If you don't mind saying you know standard thing that I ain't going there."

" Gimme some examples of standards that you particularly like and we'll talk market that we talked about -- supply."

" Yeah I I'm a big fan of net Inco and Sinatra. Song like a Billy Holliday then."

" It's funny that way."

" I'm traveling light of the -- what they think that active."

" Voted we're gonna hear a little bit about you've been so gracious to let us -- to -- preview of your CD right."

" And both -- in particular."

" Yes I'm put together standard PC."

" Suddenly I mean I think that I as a in the process of putting the packets."

" How the marketing in the business -- missile well yeah. -- back around it just is out of Amanda what we're gonna talk about a want to talk more about possibly going to work on that and that they might. It is here earlier work is quite an amazing history that you -- managed to put together their belly. And then we'll talk about. Again -- CD in place and music from it as well. Negron got the Boston legal and again I guess when I was preparing for this is -- a lot from season winding head cases. You're in -- case is quite a lot and you still are -- the episode but. So a lot of work that you did America I want to -- have everybody listen to does that sound bite that you did. -- Our first few minutes of the episode. Wins is the sad about Allen. Is observing Bradlee and Sally -- is no longer with eight out. Sort of having their first conversation. Apparently they've known each other in the past an ally and realizes that and this. Makes a few statements and and you followed up with your own statements is the way Ohio."

" Weigh in the -- to have had sex. -- Sergeant. Where territorial about the sort of --"

" This is great I waited a minute. I can't go wait a minute. I do I waited a minute that -- got. Any thoughts coming back when you're. Working on -- cases are working on that first episode. Is being UN does share with the rest of us."

" I don't have any real -- don't understand it. Activity or maybe. This episode. It's about the -- what is imposed the collapse."

" I do indeed count the mopping and it's been and what means -- 404050. I don't now episodes. And how many within each -- that he did he adds it's hundreds of."

" I can't -- is that it's very good but I'm you know wouldn't tell me about being. And if you have a -- for it. I don't get this thing."

" Billy's feet that's way etc. -- fans we we do track the minutia don't -- it. Well -- when I hear your vocals and now's a good example of it when he -- I waited a minute you actually kind of and you don't always it is the kind of repeated back a little bit at the dialog you just heard because you're watching in the studio you're watching. The edited scenes are filmed scenes are not there of course live when the actors are doing there stand there. It's almost like you're the voice of the viewer have the audience that's watching the show. -- turn our heads were kind of repeating some of those lines. I don't is that what you're having in mind when you do better do you not I think that part about it."

" I don't really think that hard about a -- very. But couldn't that way as far as fast. I guess I am kind of support the."

" I think maybe should sit down -- so -- have a remote in your hand -- records both I think that yeah this is an observation at. When you're doing that -- does Danny -- in America assume he's there with you while you're doing a disease say or that was good editor can you do it again."

" Oh yeah you're right they're and it could probably and I mean I'm in the studio and the only comment one way aren't that -- what -- would go with that. If he hit me okay cut. Every down there when we may get a note that where there may be able -- vote --"

" Can you give me an example of when he had to sort of redo after I thought I was all over."

" Never get what happened bidders. If I'm right and in our partners. And generally liked but I didn't think that we've never really having at this thing as bad as the he'll know what the -- there's it has better idea what they want. Because based. Thank you were saying that I have done before as -- Let him know what they want admit that this that if they don't know that I put something from a that you didn't. But it is that the current and it will work out and that they called it there. Is an ideal what I think they'll."

" do something original but along those lines the plan. That's interesting so you'd that's what you called -- note and away from audio notes at. If continue to make reference to sometimes base they you'll consider something that you done over the top. Which I find ironic because the show itself this over the top and the dialogue will make south preferential comments about. Itself being the show. And sometimes you're bubbles your words will be Sunday and it. Points out in a way that this is a shower I'm repeating a line. I thought they'd be all over that they'd love that but not always right they have over the top."

" Apparently they do I don't if we don't get."

" Our great -- I can only they have. It is about this ship. But what about me."

" I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll pop -- you humble man. Newton. Everybody know is probably the most. Repetitions of course of your work which is the theme song. And I wanna I wanna play -- has thirty seconds that I cannot tell you Billy how many people said. We're can't get fifth theme song I want it is -- whole album I'm not and they want to have Boston legal music as an album. But that song has grown in such popular I think it first in line. Bear with me here it was just maybe a little bit of -- were like whoa that's a little different than a lot of pops theme song. And now it's become so. Ingrained with what we love so much about the show people playoff time. So it by itself. -- Let's listen to that and then out why you listen to it -- think about it. What it was like recording that anything that you can share with all of us because they love so much -- want to hear all about it. Okay."

" The patented Billy growl and there. Now for everybody who has ever questioned me what is the last where these say and that these. Well how yeah it. As did you came up with Alan. If --"

" Now what -- the way that started out with that you know I. The guitar is doing that -- thing and and I just I believe I started out. Coverage that they -- with with my sport. And then I over. Yeah. And what you hear although that is basically -- and what I can."

" You know. You with that now that doesn't sound like a lead vocalist talking in your professional life -- lead vocalist but. In terms of this show you with say it's more of that apple anything."

" Yeah. -- definitely -- living. -- like these because our part is. It is and that and the vocal but has worked together others as well -- it and then I'm back there and effectively."

" That would."

" Who played guitars that -- or."

" payment job that they -- let the lame right on top of it. Is estimated all right. That are based on. And I don't go to our current and -- great."

" Just a -- fabulous session musician meant."

" Yeah -- them anywhere within despite it."

" Right now. Maybe I am seeing here and give him over the top myself but I am listening carefully that -- on the credits are rolling CC the different the cast members there. Actors and their Kathleen. And when they show in the case of season one their showing Tara and I I thought for sure you said Tara. And it and then -- I is that where is Brad but another reading into that too much what is are you just making. Our lives that have nothing to do with their name for."

" They don't. You read -- and thank. I hope I'm isolated."

" Not supposed to make reference -- an -- thank direct -- not finished but if they don't -- it will be indirectly."

" Here is me and I've turning up the speakers and I'm closing my eyes -- concentrating and through rides. How does it take you to work and that he music do you remember it was an all they have been multiple they let."

" I don't. You'd be surprised they don't -- about not act but how do -- speech yeah."

" I'm a complete show. -- everything. About it and then you go look at the actors that -- the whole production itself it's the weaker more."

" Yeah they are."

" That's where you work hard you but that's great you to zip it right out."

" This well you wouldn't believe it is it."

" Unless -- song did you do different versions of it hard again you know when you. He does did it."

" And then I -- but not a ebitda is that they didn't they are a great deal."

" Both work for me you know -- it -- that -- In and give him a lot of credit well."

" Bill is senate takes us through a typical episode routine you kind of danced a rented a little bit about being in the studio and it takes an hour. But. How soon before the episode airs probably do you go in the studio and and have this a look at. I can you do do week or two ahead of time nobody. And Daniel -- he'd done his scoring at that point are you working with you on the -- at the same time."

" Not bend -- it scoring."

" That they. Before. I can't -- it or that they. Earlier in the day."

" He already has this track has tracked down that he can work from. And I suspect suspect where you end up recording better let's -- video. Of course -- it's all very homey that's yet very fact. You're watching him edited version why you're singing it do you ever watch the episode then the following week or when it does there and have you ever noticed that they have used to having used some things that you recorded the week before."

" While rarely do they say. They take me out but occasionally -- I might miss something. Where they've taken something out dated feel that. -- appropriate or abetted. A little over the top or whatever but most of them but it -- said."

" And you mentioned once before they did attempts -- sort of riffs from the previous episode that they thought fit -- refined that they will actually just used to make your -- more generic. -- the pre recorded in the final product multiple times and be recorded in season one and that very thing will be in season two or whenever."

" No I don't I don't know that. It's probably -- originally each time yeah yeah. Otherwise. Would have to go to. Movement. I think it uses."

" The interesting thing about your versatility is of course in this it matches the storyline some of the story lines are very serious their romantic their dramatic. Summer over the top play areas that. And then you're. Your words in your vocals tend to match -- I have another example I'd love to play this is an example. The sound bite from death be not proud which is actually very dramatic scene but this is a -- moment. Stepping -- is that the episode this season finale for season wine Selena hall is there they went down to Texas ticket -- born. The seat that you get him off death -- You remember that. This is a fun dialogue little bit about between Selena and Allen and that's why I'm. Doing it as an example of a -- all."

" How'd you like to go to Texas yeah."

" I -- I haven't had my shot is."

" And that was an example of your vocals being a lead him to as seen -- sometimes they used as the ending of the seeing. I did do remember that episode working on that one earlier. That was an amazing episode that was a very moving one wasn't it."

" Yeah. And fact we'll play another sound bite from an episode the very dramatic. Part in this is actually -- here -- foreign characters he foreign."

" It's at the very end -- to be I think it was by -- yeah I was by injection into that -- and he just found out that the governor turned down there. Request for --"

" I think."

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" Just finish strong. I got him. --"

" For me."

" That's going to ask."

" I don't know about that dark parking posters here don't. I like is that from the app just a bit that should know -- steered off. What do you remember in and you had any -- sort of background or flavor about. The differences between doing the locals -- the dramatic persons the humorous."

" Boy you know. That very. Very. Man chosen. Of the and it is. It's the -- what you know."

" And you're watching the actual storyline. This first time -- trying to do it and yeah you probably just like. What happened next I'll once you Clinton."

" It is very overwhelming. I thought that kept them -- whatever. I think it might be the most dramatic. That it."

" I think you might be right there has been. Have been a lot more funny -- dramatic in the -- seriously like yeah death dramatics."

" You know that's stated in LA and then we'll -- deprive them."

" Heart --"

" You know those -- and it's so real."

" Now I think that dramatic would be harder to. Do vocal support that is that true or is it harder in a way I think it is funny ones."

" I think it is because. What you're doing and is the dramatic of the -- But certainly -- that you like. There's not a lot of what you can go. As opposed that but a -- no you can really open up funny. Do go out there you know that provocative but -- dramatic. -- dramatic -- that there. --"

" And that's again aren't like this at the beginning you kind of underscore our enhanced the what we're watching where as viewers totally in again you are being our voice and a way."

" And we're just."

" Probably still and moved in internalize a what's going nine and so we we don't want to hear words coming out who -- you."

" have a little not."

" We write it -- that I have I'm I'm in big bear but I can't they didn't conform out. But as as the --"

" It's about the subtleties and then it. Here's another SoundBite and this is just you know the trifecta of the emotions about the dramatically -- comedy and we got the poignant heartfelt. Romantic parts and -- of us have romantic parts. From season Wyman episode called hired -- this is the episode where Allan and -- first hit. It with a peaceful sort of coming he provided that took us in a transition during the yes. Which with a highly intimate scene moves just right into the beginning of the Brad and -- working on this isn't -- murder case that went right format of the trial of the transition. Let's hear what that is and if you can think of anything you want to add. After that however appreciate it okay."

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" Okay."

" They can't papers turning because at that point -- crime from what has been kissing for most of that forty seconds. To the courtroom. Reboot -- I do remember watching Madden and being our romantic frame of mind."

" remember what that -- that are available what I did. -- remember that this button. But it can't hear it actually happened and it is really did speak for me and tell me what -- it."

" That's right -- composed scoring. Children."

" Don't -- there aren't a lot of probably didn't we weren't there other -- What feels natural."

" Well now work. It really is a great word to transition -- this new area this is when you actually worked in a different way. On an episode this season apps that while there's fire didn't Crain got married. And guess who they call to be."

" The I guess -- A master of ceremonies thank you know the Tony well actually let's do this let's just. Let everybody relive it -- going to play a sound -- about what how is it to get that call. Want to hear about the day if filming. And how long it's accurate effort and there is that. This is billion on time on the camera on screen. -- semis it's in his way."

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" Many well. And then why. During this is Jenny Craig. Roses okay. And -- wedding dress that money can buy tasteless yes I think veteran. Eleven marriages between the two of them that had plenty of practice."

" You people -- coming up just one moment I appreciate. Opportunities."

" Goes into the opening credits at that point and there you are. Singing a duet tearing your duet partner well. That's right she's top sessions singer you can say you would work with her on the album long time."

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" We'll talk about the filming of -- rehearsals Levy a hot I think they've. You guys prerecorded music in the new listings for the actual on camera staff and."

" That's correct I actually got a call for people Robert -- supervising producer of the show. And yes -- I would like to get it home I was real. That is real it's it would cut that are I don't waiting until it rebounded. Yeah. That would. You know what something that I felt very comfortable in doing."

" He could bring realism to the role."

" There really isn't -- a -- and going to the set was very exciting for me because I never --"

" Accurate as that is incredible to me you've been working on that show about that time a year and a half but. And you hadn't met the Karuth."

" No and not let them and I I act which met in this myself. Two."

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" And that was written -- the restaurant Genghis -- then exploit it and -- people and allied duffel and about restaurant and you. You -- you recognized him in. You walked up and introduce yourself."

" I walked up introduced myself and at best and I must I had no idea that I would be on the -- and terms of armed camp."

" But it was important more than a couple weeks later that I. Actually started and it is he remembers me introduce myself to him as being on the so far they're -- US. I had the best time."

" How that's great tell me have actually. I'll say what that you're very and a very unassuming. Completely professional you have every right to be proud of all your work but you're not. You know a -- man that will go up there and he's the first person kind of hang back and they all came to you is that right."

" Oh absolutely and I am. I really -- SI. When it comes through meeting people. When I was there I I I just didn't want to didn't -- I would be in my position I actually. That everybody that the appointment -- is the belt as we put the first that they were -- idea -- doing that they found that little thing."

" They know where your fans who all wanted to countries are now. These Stater locked up first and it has."

" They don't -- entertainment that is in. That I what you think is what it did I was flabbergasted that. Don't know why but it -- I was actually thrilled about it they thought that much -- they were introduced in the."

" Their lives that you touch that you have no idea because you put your work out Daryn and you never necessarily hear back but in this case they were able to thank you for about."

" You know you know I was like yeah. I don't mind flying under the radar. You know having."

" Okay but you cover much guys. You know I'm not forceful and all. I don't know what are now. I think -- it was they were."

" Well your talent has at least propelled it put the peonies positions where you get to -- work with some great people and so being shy. Gets you it doesn't really get in the way of that because -- put innings and it's instant. Perform. It how -- don't work here as China and Europe onstage performing at a."

" Yeah I'm -- assembly you know I don't. As they've -- everybody's going to. I believe in what I sit it out."

" While I am hoping that some of the cast members and certainly a production people will come and listen -- you perform in your various places over the summer that would be great wouldn't it -- they have already of course."

" I think about it you know you know -- the people. Mark -- is people -- But I quote."

" And I definitely want -- and one in an email every time revenue scheduled to meet so I can share that with. On the website and anybody wants -- that is in the area can do that you're going to hell hole Boston legal contention that every show hook up a."

" Then in your mind really big year. And -- that their -- Later Ron you actually seeing later episode do you remember that as well your I don't know fewer. That he was cut wasn't it didn't tell me was sang another song."

" Yeah I there was an Atlanta."

" They're beautiful song at last."

" But I think his I think you're right -- and they want rise."

" Do you remember -- it was would have been and more --"

" Well I've been that you're getting -- quote."

" Coat it here. What are the."

" Doing Mario. And -- and at last with the appropriate song right -- they can have sex with somebody besides my wife I. That's in -- senior singing it to the people the reception. And so from another room we could hear you even know -- now exactly what happened. That's great means we want to watch that party Ken and I can back it."

" I got you know everything."

" and you watch the episode you don't necessary watch it. That night Tuesday night's."

" Almost the damage is okay."

" But I can easily -- the bank it's the."

" share something with me I have to I will go ahead and confessed. I really appreciate you Dana's interview with me today but. We just a few days ago didn't -- this we have coffee in Los Angeles I'm with you on their visiting and what. But it question. Yes it would wander on a -- enjoyed so much meaning it Peet's Coffee down there in the studio in New York. Yeah assets at their place -- all new year there."

" Yeah I I don't ever wanted to help democratize it until I went my dog is."

" And I go to the book."

" You really go clicking with your dog won everywhere wrong and -- it's very yeah. I was half -- college and -- your mr. music and had just. I mean let's look at The Rolling Stones it doesn't matter what age you -- her back. You're always relevant and exciting. And it -- we're talking there I learned a few things and one of them was -- think you said. What William Shatner doesn't watch the show. What I would call a pop up. This surprises me but then again maybe is just too busy with his charity work and writing Parsons. The million other things should happen this."

" It's done so much in life I don't know. I I don't know -- base but what I saw when I was on the bet he truly enjoyed the work."

" He's -- and I think he probably is more probably I don't want to watch myself on screen kind of things you're."

" I'm proud about bill and what about the equipment that you know."

" If I don't bash what are -- there or you. Invent this storm that is that. I don't. Aware of my boy -- yeah. But I I. I feel like it but to me."

" Well I think I could probably interest I would -- I cringe when I was in the myself as well but. We all enjoy it and -- now you'll be glad that you have a -- taped and everything heard later. And for your kids Monday and -- and haven't. Now one more sound -- from Boston legal and and I want to get more into what you've been doing. Before and after the show because trick is not just your only career course this one is from a very recent episode a couple of let's go race that that. And the bout was I'm gonna blame somebody from the balconies and with. When when Allen junior talking in these he says he never is is that the end storyline where Danny has. Shot is psychotherapist. Psychiatrist. And he talked about Alan you do not introduce your wife to your misfits means you don't introduce Alan to your therapist they both have their roles. And then you have your musical as we leave the episode."

" It was funny to finally. We -- therapist."

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" I had."

" It's so nice always. Can't sink in you know some great moments great dialogue that has been set on that balcony in. Its contemplated why you take -- out with a little -- and moaning at."

" Although the I think those are my best moment. I truly."

" As the best part of me not only not only because it in the there's of the you know but my work on that statement epithet yeah. I I like that kind of that kind of thing."

" You know an actual interesting retrospective of your work I think we have posted on the site if anybody does to our video clips. A very wonderful. Fan of the show her name as I'm a mass market replied has put together all the balcony scenes from season one and a stream has you know these clips a one after the other. And since the majority of the -- and with your music. We can watch that whole I think it's 20/20 five minutes longer that you know twenty or seventeen episodes of about -- in and listen to your. Ending I have about the thing with your music about it I'm good to go on -- and that next. Sorry to have you just general questions about possibly know do you have a favorite vocal parts -- you that has been used it doesn't have to actually be a favorite favorite but one he remembers that stand out a particular. Episode. A particular scene."

" You know I can't do because you're always looking forward not back right -- yes. I understand. Now it is it as a fan of the show do you have a favorite character somebody be really follow their story line he laughed for you enjoy their part."

" I'm a big fan of it all. In the diplomatic. I don't say it."

" Because. I shouldn't say that there is no greater love him and it. Check it. You people don't bring in is there are intended for it. And so I mean."

" I think it all and -- what an important test for it."

" I agree they meshed so well I think it's so wonderful that the majority of them are EL over forty and you know obviously in the seventies even. And and were all we don't look at the age there even though it isn't like television has geared toward the younger and I really like that I can relate well to that."

" They're very very you know I. I had dinner with him is a fantastic. Mart -- Eric -- Very talent and the other thing is paying. It does include hand and."

" He's a painter as well yeah. Let things like that yeah."

" Wonderful won't -- that with the quality creative thing."

" And you said he'd just mentioned you had dinner with them you can't get away with just mentioning that without a follow up up up up."

" Yeah -- I was invited who have -- a girl friend of mine is out."

" Tests that a version mind Adrian locked around her husband yeah or actually the ones that email because they were on our podcast and a month or so ago in the email me and said. You've got -- ability has it I want to talk to Billy do you know Billy's thick and that's how -- at that."

" I met her in addition came into."

" I felt that I -- webcam didn't. Quite know technically you know it an -- wonder."

" Full time."

" Yeah let's -- want to believe I have no personal connection and all the characters and all the cast members the actors on the -- that you enjoy so much. Do you remember protect master about a favorite scene or a favorite part -- you've contributed -- do you have any recent. I'm episodes that you really liked that stand out you know and I don't -- you can -- this is this story itself. You remember like various ticket that was the tax evasion why we had a recent ones like them. Vinny shooting as their -- that he's been like that anything stand out."

" Finding Nemo they went captain Nemo de -- puppet but. I was off sat so a lot of that was then on location in Canada is not at the British Columbia. This they get around Davis you know -- often get off the set -- our foreign element and it. -- You've you know some of the production in the recruit people mostly Danny and I realize anybody that you think it is an unsung hero that needs to be sort of mentioned that called out he'd like to shine a spotlight on for -- I."

" You know I I don't know that there -- people back on this thing. But they're not cut back I want -- I don't. The other people. On the best at what had been put -- you know it -- would be great. Who's the supervisor resistant. This isn't very nice and it. Probably doesn't love the work that you don't go back."

" That's right we we hear about the my list as the baby Kelly is they have the most people built only about. But Steve -- he's."

" I worked hard. I mean I think it one of the camera. You know. Well I."

" Definitely want to hear more about your life before Boston -- you who worked in and I have some examples of this and sound but you're in. A group a group a duet with your browser. -- we were duo. Right wow how original purpose and only you and John was -- him out of how many Brothers and sisters to you have got. Seven. -- Oh -- seven and five and yourself. Yep there it -- in. My goodness I'd say a lot of them in some of the creative arts or various occupational."

" All the work. Physically I felt on the laugh when that left the field -- and it."

" Oh really everybody got the real jobs could pop up here. All -- nothing here is a real job of sometimes it's hard to make a living doing what you do you manage to do that very well. And I've -- Correctly if I'm wrong but. Use you start recording with your rather in the seventies the late seventies were you doing work before that as well without sort of the launch of your musical career."

" No I think weren't before that I was actually -- I was gonna group called young and old and women who. When I was about seven game."

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" Then they decided as at April there and they have been killed. -- the trauma around me. Don't. Now the -- where we -- about. Three years. Well and with -- it would have been sent in there."

" But prior to that you know my father -- a court order in -- so I."

" We were all involved in a nightclub it."

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" So important that sit in front of places in the turing didn't stop there are actually -- your brother went on tour with. Tell me about -- tell me about the wins."

" Now wouldn't we wouldn't. When can't they don't. And pretty important that we were here that we auditioned for the growing physical what is but it would be actual -- company that we. And we got part. Orchestra port for which often amounted that they."

" Hit singers that's a lovely name."

" Yeah and what we did what we backed up in the principal on stage. We -- work -- says -- for a period yeah yeah."

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" Yeah they -- effective -- show."

" It was a big when it one -- and expand --"

" That's the best way you wouldn't want to be three years of people that you don't expect a."

" No I don't know quite a bit turnover but."

" For the most part we've we kept most of the most."

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" Com and that was -- and have."

" How really and I can actually tell now than it was to deal out of Boston like I can tell your boys versus if he were swapping off. Yeah winds there but then I can tell yours is little different from your Brothers."

" Yeah -- that the independent board."

" Well it. Are now and saw and went on an in and actually got grabbed up by another group tell me about them."

" You know we have been around on the independent medical and it will be important. Ignorant and it was picked up by a group called typically it."

" I remember simply read wow."

" It was actually. You know -- at all what I've picked out yet that I didn't record and a well."

" Into the -- and a lot and we decided to record. It through and it became their first number one record in England."

" And then they went on to do more now what did you think of his version. They actually have a little literally they just a few seconds over just to compare. I think you do better. An awful lot like you. I funny and you don't have the advantage of the duet which adds ads layering we like."

" Yeah well you know I was really impressed. Areas hit from Manchester England they might stop."

" That is interesting."

" It was really interesting. You know I was truly epic patent that it was redone because we didn't know that independent label and it -- it -- exposure. That they've brought."

" Why did she have besides simply read just give us as many names is you can remember that. People that you either because he writes songs and they've performed them they picked them up. Or belief performed with just just give us some names that we always recognize and and be impressed by I think he."

" Well you know I didn't vote for example broke -- I'll."

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" I have three songs on that album. But they actually -- pour myself but we have made -- album it."

" Which ones -- by the way yeah."

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" You think there's been a lot of songs that."

" I don't know. I wrote songs that break Charles recorded."

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" I haven't thought it was pretty. You made it. The moment things around in my own is that."

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" Well we know I had although that would then played is that it. And -- we always at a piano. And we've been kind of perform or -- my mother father for it."

" Oh Powell starts. -- what you shouldn't you play."

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" Well the title we'll call it called Mario war. And and ended -- naming -- album. Might work with Alice marble."

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" Well you know. I think he could call it. It was environmental. People out of writing this world bowl."

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" Remember that time."

" But that Simon with -- you know it's it was very purple areas that Paul Simon has -- by now but give them up. Think about record."

" Now I think that album when is from nineteen men to does that seem to fit with what you remember -- for most of us it feels like just yesterday you know that's like 1012 years ago right."

" All but he did -- it may be warm. And out without."

" Wow wow. How did you OC re the movie of course I'm sure. We enjoy that very refs are cars are around Nath who were partially a -- all of the actors -- and -- when Kerry Washington."

" Oh I don't -- I thought the response."

" Really fit that I mean not that I knew that much -- very -- pressure felt like I knew him afterwards."

" And I I followed him. -- among my able -- it again and on the --"

" Now speaking of movies you've also been involved in -- movie. Maybe more -- the one I know about the one that we can all watch on dvd now. What we just tell me tell all of us the name of that movie."

" The other part RPI would actually been the -- of the big -- that. I want them on camera but I would support that -- lead -- of the group although it that they head. At the very beginning. Of the group that was my boy."

" That's great man this is -- just for people who haven't seen it whenever remember it is back Emmanuel I'm Robert Thompson you know everywhere and wrote in put together and directed this movie it's about. And 1960s group by partly. Ana -- vocal group it's kind of their journey to stardom and the struggles along the way. And."

" Anybody that report it and then we know anything about. But it is like it has faced this the beginning. And aren't -- Group is the great movies they this department I knew which is. Until it came out aren't keeping this."

" I really want to yeah. --"

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" And of course there's a soundtrack to accompany it tell you if you like the enemy is a mean there's."

" You're on a couple of the song because."

" You know in the important thing about the contract that is if they -- a lot of those songs they put it on a lot of different -- but I'm thing. Quite a few of those -- in the -- Why does my heart is the that they hold it on soundtrack. But I think they didn't."

" And -- I play sound bytes and that's unchecked -- they may and may not be give. Thing."

" There's only a couple of -- our -- actual sound. But it you. Rented between being stated. We will hear all of the."

" I'd love to play somebody right now from that and that you tell me -- that this is one actually you were singing and nothing but love. But it doesn't so there's a few seconds of nothing but love and we talked a bit more about the authority."

" Was that also work that you did all in the studio did you cut down -- that if the movie and and meets on the actors and mingle among them."

" You know the cool thing about it normally work. Quite that they wish you pretty certain thing. We wouldn't be in this studio. Recording. The music but those didn't. As they would set it -- Shoot them sit back quickly back quickly and Robert Townsend went over the Internet that -- telling exactly what it is. And that we were recorded on the spot -- which -- down to the location. And it played at by. As they were shooting them."

" Means and I did did it go down. But there -- a lot of -- downtown LA. And I did get to go down and hang out with the I got you know."

" Now -- who'd played the lead vocalist and Michael right okay."

" He would hear his voice -- names on the other acts that movie that there was one it's just a legend."

" There was a character called orange. Yeah. And he is on the network."

" We wanted to. But when -- particular."

" It was as Harold Nicholas lived here the famous and they started it all back and I mean twenties and as long ago. The Nichols Brothers and in -- what mostly non. The best known for their dancing and singing right there it is like a complete package. Did you get to -- I can't wait a dry he did just recently passed -- way that is known for doing incredibly backwards somersault."

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" I'm going to now now that they know who thought I."

" I have a better reason to watch -- that there as well."

" I'll also viewed and moving out and it is I want to play this really -- on your thank you for again for ending means is the one that you dead. Just now I don't know was this by yourself or your brother little."

" How. That would -- so I'm okay I'm not originally recorded -- Well let that about the start that I recorded as demo."

" I didn't necessarily get released to the public know what really we're lucky. So hair world computer. Equipment it would never really. Fish really it's very treacherous her a few minutes a little our next few seconds of the round."

" Okay."

" In a world."

" I could see a whole movie around and around."

" We will however. There is -- story here."

" Yes fear is his lady had a murder. -- so. He's headed now Enron side of the streets there you think you actually have girls there are singing with you. Yes they're bankrupt but who. So H I mean no one pick up on top recording."

" And maybe did what you -- now. Law you know."

" It's time what's -- gonna be our candidate. It's time to bring back the past and it -- purpose thing that yeah. Well speaking have. Putting out more and new material or repair business -- let's talk right FMR gonna be so excited to hear that you're big and actually by accident that we that we have a forum over Boston asked with a dot org. And that people post where can I by Billy's music. And I mean I don't know but now there may be you know it's in the works it's gonna happen -- I wore it -- So and the EU have actually recorded all the songs he just mentioned that earlier given him for the CD out."

" I haven't made it yet. But I I noted that it I probably have -- out in a month and a half."

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" It's Levy on a separate seating him are -- as part let's play 32 little bit. First I'm travel light I think I'm in the matter that was a Billy Holliday song. And -- Billy Valentine's into."

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" and then and I that are. --"

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" I got a piano player that I worked with on this. And it they would do -- felt it."

" This is world premiere time guys have one more song meant to Billy's been my have to share -- that she's funny that way. With hasn't been heard as far as I know out there. Korea solicitor little sample of back and -- for -- things -- Sinatra. Billy this is Billy has well."

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" I'm glad it's. Mom leapt into the moon. This scare the this crazy I mean. She's yeah. Then okay. Time."

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" You know these are all -- I have that very special here. I thought they were all we're hearing me do my standard bit I don't know what that would do it again but this but I always wanted to do."

" Yeah I think -- now and it's sort of popular and rod -- made a whole new career and and Elvis Costello -- doing instead of -- your standard of it's it's kind of been nice. Wave bringing back."

" And by the way. You know -- standard you know I don't know -- you know who it is our real. He has. Done -- well."

" All. Around but he was being prepared earth orbit I partied out. I owe it to protect the but it ironic that it would it became a but but their standards for sure I'll --"

" To -- did the movies and he was converted. Yeah. That's right. I would like to just -- tell you how wonderful it is pin this in the last hour with your have a few follow up questions as we look into the future not only with the CD spent. Looking at Boston legal it kind of looks like it's coming back for season three ABC is being really KG did not gonna announce it officially probably tell Maine sixteen. But word is out so looks like another year of steady paychecks -- Billy Valentine can happen."

" Okay I agree that you know I do. According to your house."

" How does it pay that mortgage. Yeah. I what kind of things that you had we're given. All the leeway that sounds that you already have. -- look at things you like to do both equally if if you could write your ticket on season three of Boston legal are you happy with doing the way you're doing."

" Well you know I'm all over the -- didn't show. I would I wouldn't mind doing a couple of cool -- so that it and I think they've made it a couple of my but they would hopefully they will."

" Well you be sure it's in the CD every single producer in Africa at. I'm more. And united any of the casting people producers -- writer listening we want to see Billy again finds some way to bring him back on that you know we want to see him as well as here -- then get married check traffic app at our federal government happen. Or maybe LA -- the -- time. All very got it back up. You know we've been talking a lot about Boston legal and music but -- related to those two major players in your life. Giving goals that things that you want to accomplish -- share with everybody has announced. To stake your goal publicly that -- and it accomplishment."

" Well I think. You know act."

" I -- you know that -- the great kind of my thing."

" I wouldn't. I don't -- wanted to get a little bit dark -- wanted to be. Could be worth it entertainers and and that's what I am. I work and I feel like we're it was -- it says something --"

" I would want to finish up my the next couple didn't but I think about it."

" If you can squeeze in time between live performances. And television work patent. Movie and you're gonna -- necessities. I have a suggestion. Memoirs. We want we want your right a about autobiography a little sort of look into or if it's not about yourself because your humble man yeah right about that the the tone of the industry when you were. Working back in the seventies -- in Allan bring him here just your thoughts is a very unique position here and."

" The great -- yeah I don't. I thought if they have its own."

" You could maybe you start out with an essay. And expanded from there and of course you know who will be happy to published yesterday crap that's a I knew about it I didn't have I didn't know where you are right. Well I'm giving you your assignment and your editor Billy how Billy Holliday who has been -- on -- your going to write an essay on where what it's like to work. In musical entertainment in the television industry -- will posted on Boston's Ashley built not large. And -- expanded into more chapters. A regular column and then a book -- out spoke. Great all of its trip. Any other thoughts we haven't touched on everything in your life but this is your chance to sort of -- us all of us at up to date on anything we --"

" I know one thing. We didn't is. Well actually I -- I don't carry it right out of money he. Where I became is their most failure for a lot of see how writers here allotment."

" But and that's how I got me so many artists that -- wrong. -- body raised over. -- Even my vote. Would --"

" A great period and I think that helped me become a better thing."

" Because you -- to match different tons and -- songs Fonda Michael Bolton what you had to basically do the demo singer is different than selling it. To -- apple right."

" So you're doing and then when you're you're better prepared for brighter than they want it -- they're they wanted it. Important supplement when when a certain artists -- is in my life it is that talent. And I I -- yeah."

" Did you find yourself listening to a lot of you know that particular artist Bolten and try getting it from."

" What do I think if you want in the may -- in the event open bank. What you know errant elbow -- is. -- don't open but boy those different."

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" They don't always been but there's been great all right yeah they're great aren't -- it and then I remembered it now and they're not as. Not -- is used to -- you know we don't publish it don't. Want our artists. Right. Are they stop what you're a really don't know why they'd rather find an artist and art. That's right it's not so."

" Oppose it is that a quiet. And that I think that's hurt that this."

" I think it you know like you head back in this in its early years as. I think it is of them -- right -- What they were great. That's what it did you write you need every aren't -- great -- they might be a great artist but it won't -- a great program."

" You need to collaboration. And if you saying it's a little scarce these days."

" Yeah and I'm still call upon. They -- right but not of what exactly. Because there is I don't know they aren't buying these forward. I. Mean and that selling out. -- yet. Been able."

" As amassing here it they go and that's spread batter because you don't have to work that hard in the sense you're not writing the song you're singing it."

" Nobody in there it -- there's so -- but my -- repertoire felt something. Type of thing is -- you know that as an artist as -- been able to interpret these but from what you know."

" They go I see another chapter in and in future book of Billy Valentine that in the Czech to bad demo to -- The unsung heroes because they never really gets seen by the pop or heard by the public right because it's just."

" The only people listening to generally of the producers in the and the artist that will eventually required."

" Right and -- power it has already got nowhere."

" But from from there."

" Do you do you still I keep in touch with them apples."

" Oh yeah I I I actually thought that Aaron probably -- That's. What it is have been found the recording an album right now."

" Oh well you I just. Was listening to they did one on about Saint Louis with takes six -- I think it was take six is on and that and Aaron -- thing on it. And even listen to LA and download pick six -- propeller kind of yeah and Howie day you know at that yet."

" Oh yeah respect everyone and -- yeah. Think well."

" Each individually right."

" my best attempt it is. Meant that every guy in the group."

" the Dalton Brothers are like that the Clinton called Cooper and it should pick it. Well it's been wonderful I wanted to just to recap again anything you can tell us about where -- performing why if we thought at the beginning."

" Okay. And I didn't end occasionally do standardized but what I can do bad now let you know -- well."

" Okay is the only one but right now the cafe there -- that I tell you about right now okay and we'll keep your eye on I guess we'll just tell them keep their around Boston asked with a dot -- calendar on the front page and anything comes up we'll do that. We'll also put that on the music page a little bit more about billionaire. Thank you so much and I appreciate the power more than an RD stand with me we really have learned a lot more about the music in the voice behind Boston legal."

" Thank you so much for having me in. They call -- Boston legal battle for Internet life."

" Yeah. Thanks again have a great rest of the day -- if you track and in the line."

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