Title: Boston Legal TV Podcast: Word Salad Day, part 1, 2x21 with host Dana Greenlee and co-host cast members Tessa Auberjonois and Adrian LaTourelle; published April 9, 2006; 82 min.

" See -- yeah the game is called hell born you start out as a ghost fighting your way out of hell and when you finally reached the surface you need to track down your lost soul in order to become human again. It sounds like a typical day around here. And Britain."

" And what is everywhere can mother always please I wish I had a life well. I actually do."

" On fourth -- studios yards from the home of Boston -- legal dot org if you are plugged in and -- Right here on my couch as we talk about Astoria in -- your pocket for family cooperative. Dope I mean the master -- Passion or addiction so pants valuing your melancholy. And -- friendship. It's Saturday April 82006. A few days after Boston legal Tuesday as I'm being green green you're listening to. Boston legal that's the unofficial weekly audio experience of Boston legal every week we bring you an episodic deconstruction. At that great David. Childish on right here in the United States on ABC without the twentieth century fox and of course everybody cast crew create a separate data to China productions. I'm actually welcome the people that are actually viewing Boston legal now in South Africa just wants this week on Monday so that's great not a part of the world from. It is my only hope radio essentially conversation. Of the 21 episode of season two something like to call words that would day. All right as you all know if you listen to this before and I you have I'm never alone it's never a moment here Boston -- radio -- have. The great co host having a conversation with me about the episode. But I did appoint another chance and I have to co -- side by side. Both appearing in the episode and I know that you probably have some idea who it is if you read in nineteen users -- blurbs on the website. But briskly along kind of -- what's my line kind of scenario. Are -- bear with me. Yes silly aren't we are male and a female combatant. Let's tease them will be your -- defendants in the case hired -- Goldschmidt to defend your characters where. Right let's steel that what did you just say you're -- or some line that you think in dialogue that will sort of give away your character."

" Kind of first. It's a well established fact that all videogame increased the don't mean level in the brain. At least the government --"

" I talked to the when the page flier. Thank you and your character's name in our. And your name in this and opera thank you Jim glad to have you I can't believe we have -- the story line. But Java too much because our co host next -- know how low. What are you tease us with a favorite line of -- from your storyline."

" Okay. Imagine leaving for your job and ever having to worry -- daycare late baby -- thank Bandana he's."

" Hot hot hot I just kind of been a little euphoria right now for now -- I think everybody related to that. OK you're at in the polygamy case he added -- characters. Richard and Clint and your payments test there's thank you tell us -- thank you Adrian were being here. And doesn't just -- away. Why are you two in the same room."

" We are in the same room well we're actually in an apartment in different room because we are married."

" I love it and there's a third individual in this -- and we'll hear from occasionally."

" There is apparently hearing -- in the background of the Julian much around. Who is ten week. -- today yeah it's."

" About means you know Mike could you still to this episode I'm just gonna guess it was about a month ago. You're just barely he'd."

" Yeah I think he was three weeks old when -- it yeah well yeah steal your real trooper yadier and I went there with. It worked out very well that we weren't in the same storyline because. We -- you know what about could be in the dressing room while the other person about that lesbian together."

" Offense -- it take you both of you too familiar scenes we were open was over and done monolith that. Like a couple of -- a whole week."

" What mine was pretty spread out so actually. It it might might turnaround over the course of three weeks although it with two days. Couple they've effectively and then one day the third week."

" That's and then testing it did you breezed through a little bit quicker."

" I think it took about thirty days total --"

" Yeah they're compressed."

" to thank goodness. That's exactly the need to drive to Manhattan Beach together hopefully well no because you were -- as a selling filming at the same time."

" Not necessarily that we did you know when I was shooting Adrian came with us so that we could. So that we can have the baby and I can just to grant and and Eric and then ran back -- the."

" And actually when when that wasn't even possible and amateur and a quick step and as well song --"

" The grand father it was very very happy to have his grandson there."

" And I -- he got the world's did you bring about everybody can do a non. And I suspect. So that's one thing we didn't I didn't want to push events you know we might as open and right up there -- your father is really opens tomorrow. -- Lewiston -- dairy family aren't immigrants agent you and a lot of scenes that. Father in law."

" Steady receivers. I had stay with a lot of I just -- it. I'd rather it -- Adrian because he said after that it that it lets you pretended not to know -- high and I that he had that's good acting."

" Yeah. It does about the way is -- is being very clear about it but -- All right well we're gonna definitely delve into each of -- I think your reactions from acting on the -- Just a quick rundown and everybody knows what to expect of an -- Deconstruct the full show. We're gonna have both -- you listen to sound bite and comment on where it's validate your story lines. Then we'll plan Deb from Montreal she's always here every week three visit the parallel universe something they like to call tracked in the courtroom. And because there are parallels a pop up now and then and she's got some things actually managing your storyline their stories about the teams in the various franchises with that."

" Gains kind of taking over we all -- holiday thing."

" And did you there was like seven Star -- on nine in this episode a monster co stars and of course the tune you out now."

" And maintain I didn't know there that may now."

" Half an all merge into some Boston legal news of the week and actually want to I just can't wait I'm gonna say this on right up front because on Wednesday. Boston legal won the at Peabody award today. Yes it was announced on Wednesday 65 Peabody awards were announced and Boston legal. We're distinguished achievement and meritorious public service."

" Call us. That's amazing had no idea know that because of deep political comment."

" yeah I am actually let's see they have a quote I'm going to read it. About the law firm and somersaults with comedy dramas to stinging political commentary with acrobatic assurance and just and disguised -- Yes I think it is a political commentary and -- that's given out to. Network. Producing companies stations and individuals in the electronic media oldest awards or another about the Peabody Weber congratulations. -- Why do want to talk first with you guys just about -- know you gotta get to know our co host things outside of Boston legal and then we'll jump right into the storyline. You guys are both actors which is an amazing thing in a family and out to be you know -- we all heard the big names doing a that you guys are working actors -- stage actors here. Television and movies and I've done a lot of things very unusual that he can't you -- something very unusual I want to ask you got to work chase. After. That was interesting this is almost like an art exhibit."

" Well it -- actually. -- out of the blue a friend of mine Kevin McCoy way who I hadn't spoken to here -- you went to college together many many years ago. He I think he is the liability RMY. Well known video art. And what they do is. They build -- very sophisticated. Viewing platform sometimes parents suitcases and I'm there and machinery. And in this particular instance they could cut scenes from evil -- two. And it's -- it's a rather. Famous scene and maybe your viewers may remember -- the scene where Bruce Campbell is being chased. Especially by the camera. And he runs through the cabin in the woods and all one shot. And he goes all the way through. Burst into stores not -- back -- and out again."

" You do it you read that riding -- look over your shoulder yeah. Actually the -- wing tips from our website if everybody goes to Boston Jessica -- or click on the episode page or its holiday."

" I have a little bio about you and a link to Kevin."

" Images over Flickr so we went to the images and a full movie are linked to that and there site so we can all see you running through how does over and over looped --"

" Yeah let me just very quickly was really amazing they they shot -- at Brooklyn college and big guys we're helping him rebuild that that. Exactly as it had occurred when Nate -- bet on how many years before it was unbelievable the Olympic about what."

" Well pretty amounts I think it even find that information I suppose that."

" Well you know it's such a cult hit an -- so much about he's I think there's a lot out there."

" that is certain women usual. Credential to have American to be part of an art installation at."

" Yeah well you know you find you take work very confined just."

" enter into that I want and you guys have done a stage together together not just a part but to gathered I have to say Barack I'm coming from Seattle we have. We're broadcasting here in Seattle and they need to -- here ended 1980 for a few years back. In the open space theater thinking so into space thank you and that was. An unusual thing to write it was very sort of mixture of that archival video montage -- actors are kind of thing."

" Yes yeah we actually. Shot all the video it was actually shot for the for the show and I would I would interact with pre recorded -- took a lot of choreography and I don't know how to make it work but any and I think it is that."

" How long does that -- when we left you're doing."

" About it they rent about a month. We were there about a little over treatment yeah and that's a little over Cuba and you know this whole process -- they're back and forth between our poke around and to. Making the videotape. And then coordinating back in the theater with a big. Effort. It was about all that was something that I have read up Adrian ballet I think playing. It went ten because it's very politically charged interest -- story can aging. Well first evacuate the -- and cover to cover every day."

" Are you leaning that way how does this Spitzer does have a."

" it would also fund because. I going to get a dime from Seattle originally. And my multifamily is there and are at the director it was a woman named Al arbour who. I along with a lot of other satellites had worked together. At a difficult annexed. Theater. About ten years in the ninety's. Child actor what well I'm actually 38 as the child that's. -- it's my professional job was that the Indian space like 1981."

" So he came home in the sense both weight metaphorically and in back to act on its great illustrate after we got married in. It has penguins Stanley a little bit yeah and after the so got to go practice at a very much among --"

" So -- actually I want to say I am. That -- have been in a couple of lot harder isn't it kinda interesting I saw this from many our message board over the web site that. They showed -- repeated at the weekend before where it's already aired."

" One of year turns it and if so someone -- and I just."

" Her out banning -- does the U that's get out expected to Yasser."

" And Joseph yeah."

" Don't another you know we we -- that -- epic has figured big expense because my brother Randy there's. And his wife Kate -- are also actors in New York and Renny had just shot a lot harder it is that we the orange -- cent total coincidence. Well well -- I mean you know I think it out that -- and the other ten then and they know each aspect that your brother Steve Allen though you know everything else. -- personal connection it can make a huge market into a room -- And they don't know much value."

" That's right now working so important."

" Exactly and let them edit with bands that the that they -- that."

" It means our episodes paired with and we each other."

" Now you actually mentioned and in passing that you guys did this -- fortunately out of college and you -- college together."

" O'Leary grad school and graduate school again and that last. We went out one half did you know each other when you replied are you met there."

" No event there Adrian was he would around the year after high authority and we were very good friend shirt most of the time that we were there at about five years after her. I graduated at that. We started dating. To -- we're out of cool."

" You're not telling me you actually had any kissing -- I think I didn't spark anything at the time."

" We -- we actually never worked. Together it."

" The only thing we ever did together was. -- sexual harassment video. It's like an industrial or something I don't think ever with -- that was the only time we ever work together but certainly via. Yeah the guy who directed that was actually -- So it -- but it didn't regret."

" I hope you have a copy of it maybe."

" I don't always get it if someone does Ella got a copy. Step in 1984 through the first time that we -- got a really really work together. Great."

" And is this the second time we consolidate or --"

" their Vince and others in between."

" Now this. The second time we've been in the bank and get it but no we didn't -- screamed yeah."

" You know we've been reading together over the years. We've worked -- place about a week together. At a lot more theater in Connecticut. Contract but -- and then that was just you know a result of being. In the same. Peer group that's bad actors in New York City turnaround time. Yes since they got married we really have this is great for us to be up to it as bad thing. My dad actually deserves the commission or it because it was supposed."

" He went though persistent about I think that pressed to do on this yeah well you know we we would we haven't caught by that I mean. He got us. The auditions actually. I don't think he -- he didn't pull -- figure."

" The role you know but it was definitely. You know him him looking out for good part breast and then. The first time that we went and that they cast both -- that we -- the price."

" Yes they didn't have to do both of you -- opera that would have been trying to hide though wells -- money and aren't the next time hugely."

" well you know up until they get -- of that sort."

" Now that's true you have to be really tough which analysts thought that was really hard because."

" Actors right in the -- sensitive individuals or create -- I -- and have to hit face the nose."

" Wait more than most of us. I'll tell you a little bit about you have a I did actually so what was that process and and what scene did you both read and in addition."

" My first audition was for -- the the role of the doctor crews on the -- a -- about not -- doctor Williams. That's what they originally auditioned for and I guess state. Change their minds because they -- and my call back they had me read response."

" Oh okay thanks had to prepare to -- yeah I am glad they changed in my."

" much better all definitely meaty -- and has a did you read a certain."

" I actually read everything that I ended up doing so because there -- others. That where cut. Before we shot it -- So I just I read those first that's sort of the back and forth -- speak it ain't that that I that I each dance. In the courtroom. I always appreciate it when people are you know not data. Treat me like reading a daughter they treated me like it was like any other -- and I am I and I -- allowance. That's happened rapid and I could -- it and that. -- Adrian and after that where did you have to baby."

" Talk talk. And everybody's so impressed he's -- yeah."

" You know I don't I think should know the director -- probably my guess. Is that he would probably. Would not gonna casting it wasn't you know out of the important. It was the right thing."

" They're very -- qualities that gave them duke it out for you that you hold it you are -- that the name of the connection are are endowed. I'm gonna assume now I'm never -- you do actually watched that the episode that series in the first season second season because that I'm not I'm ex mex and maybe. But you did watch it before you're actually Ron --"

" happily watch it every week and."

" And your general thoughts about possibly -- just as a viewer."

" I just love it and we're so close spirit that has. We are the -- scripts that are written originally you know. That we know and they always right more -- that cut cut it down."

" That's tragic to me everywhere this pressures that I don't want to see anything."

" I now they're wonder are they really want to but you know like the ticket seats which I guess that speculating Internet and a concern. My access act that we were there in the house. With McCarrick the day that he read it and with it. -- in tears he came and said oh my guy I have got to read this speech upon the bad part it's -- yeah -- has."

" As many times and -- in fact the that the David -- about how incredibly -- is to be part of the show that. Did you know takes the risks but it does hand and you know especially in face of like. Possible advertising problem -- banking David Kelly really doesn't pull any punches but with getting his way across yeah."

" I think see it's very interesting I think that thing. Is that ever want to think about it."

" I cringe when I heard ticket and then I saw the brouhaha and or add the stuff that was going on about it but. He is not I think David. ABC it's a business that they -- up and down and all controversies that customers use our part of the --"

" Well now I think it it's probably got just them. These this current that current topics at its current so I would hazard a guess that you know David cousins and so long that he probably has a pretty good idea."

" How far he can go you know without cutting. Irreparable damage that you know he'd definitely takes it to the edge which is fantastic. And I think he also examine."

" But I'd -- every issue it even you know both of our storyline there probably not outcomes that. The viewer might have liked it based content for either of them I mean -- know I don't know."

" I agree he's really actually good that they're presenting I liked and -- a clip that I have -- stick at closing arguments made sure and have. The attorney for the United States and around the bad guy argument and they're too because we go all now Kate yes pay your taxes."

" Our our war in. Absolutely. And you hear the other one you -- even her fresh."

" And just in terms of -- I think that relation it's such restaurant show because the relationship third grade the characters there's though. Fun and interesting and he he and keeping to integrate. Ballot as he has with every every at -- between comedy and drama. They're my -- last backed them and that professional. Lies the characters now."

" The humor in the drama and -- Let's jump into words Halladay wonderful title I was had to go to Wikipedia for that went to protect council."

" I guess it's the topic at hand where -- validate will take the storyline but -- like we usually do we'll start out with the death of by video game which -- story. Then all merged into the practical side of polygamy of which there are many good reasons to -- kids I'm not."

" And then add and will go into Dini announced excellent adventures they had to the spot and we always end up at the balcony scene because it's always been an element of and we saw that it was directed by is in no rush."

" Mark and divisive act correctly again."

" You know what I never found out -- demean them."

" Then you some freshen your names so would you."

" kept about yes I just human you know any citizen who has an incredible character authority remains."

" He's -- directing for. 35 years and you're looking up and I am DB coach hacked my caller and then some -- the Johnston went out. So what was it like working with him -- direct you kind of experience that."

" He's an incredible. Incredibly warm. Funny. Exuberant yeah. French man. And I just got to be a delight you know he's he really knows what he's doing obviously. I didn't find out so anybody actually directed somewhere in time which is actually -- I remember very fondly. And it is so and getting back -- you know it's his Turkish dial. He's very cute very good with the actors are well you know as he -- it made it very sort of light. You -- that you know. Everybody jokes with them and and it just that very pleasant guy and so."

" Did he give you lot of direction on mannerisms -- and how you should deliver did you have did you ask you to do us a seeing a different way."

" Well -- didn't he didn't give me a whole bunch. He didn't give anybody a whole bunch you know the stuff. Police discovered I was I was doing which was relatively straightforward. And Sochi would. He would do things like -- did modulate intensity and after that he would. He he did remind us in fact I remember reminding everybody you have more conviction and are raised the -- little bit it was more about energy level and it was. Approaches. To a certain thing."

" So he said I'm not gonna be the scapegoat if he were very emphatic -- are quite."

" Yeah we did that we do that in a couple of times and I think each time he modulated up a little bit just that he could have -- You know so why -- I did it. Essentially it with the same intentions but probably he -- did a little bit more emphatically. I'm that was actually the first thing that we shot. And I was a little bit intimidating to come in on that first sort of you know confrontational fame was marked ballot who had never met before. But it was good I mean -- Serb got out a way and I think it went well and then and we can move on more sort of fun stuff that was very confident I think."

" in because you're right this is where friends where sort of at odds and you know one was lying maybe Brandon."

" And other writers writers this time where -- had three of them I don't know to be divided up by storyline and Michael -- And caring and why is covered in -- golden and did you meet them or re hanging around."

" I did not I never met them. Now that said you know why is it -- I'm relatively -- to the television quoting now on on the TV that there are hundreds. People walking up until. Then been there and I didn't see them but I never had a I never had caused to interact with them at all yeah."

" At that you know they be hanging Iran -- that a thing like that's not how I wrote it."

" That's not what it could."

" No no but I mean I guess if I have been really screwing it up they may have had some. -- I guess they didn't."

" I'd get the NL trust everybody -- profession and operates. Well I want to get right into your storyline has her way into the started out with the sound -- in actually this is that's not the first -- that you found that certainly the first one and we saw."

" And I think. Potentially was right after I think the opening credits I believe. And this is where you're introduced -- and by your buddy from Annapolis."

" Chris my Shirley Schmidt. Kinda follows and fellow. Chris is an old buddy of mine from Annapolis right now he's the founder and CEO of -- gains last quarter it posted a profit of 500 to know. Very impressive how can help it. A wrongful death suit completely frivolous filed by the mother -- died while playing the latest video game he died of heart attack. He's impossible and played the game for nearly two days didn't eat and drink. There's cars stopped the game is called hell -- you start out as a ghost fighting your way out of hell and when you finally reach the surface you need to track down your lost soul in order to become human again. Sounds like a typical day around here what are your sense of frivolous suit surgeries and all the company responsible because apparently kid playing game for two days straight and there's a glitch. I need to -- go away before it goes to trial we've got a sequel coming up next months and bad press could kill us. Shouldn't be a problem we think we can it's just kicked in summary judgment."

" That's always a CEO looking for an angle that's not very public that he. And Paul I love it when called -- can provide as little humor every now and then he -- is now like every day around here if."

" I'm -- kind of interesting and I know it's a character but you know if you want to shed some light on non."

" Why you guys know each other I don't know at a Annapolis which I assume -- your character was either in the navy -- Marines are not and wide -- at one point and Brad chase was at West Point to."

" Well I'm not exactly sure what Peres had in mind but that may just be. Denny's addled brain yes you know I'm assuming that there's a little more mad cow coming through as a member I think in this case we should trust Bradley memory over -- But you know we we were to get together and Annapolis. Mark -- and I talked a little bit about that when we are. On that. Unfortunately we weren't able to sort of you know we were we were talking about the idea like that at Annapolis and West Point there's a real bit surreal. Code of honor. Not firsthand obviously in the storyline I'm not being. Straight with. And Brad. And that never spoken of in the script but it was definitely you know in the back of our mind as actors and characters."

" That tends seem that you fraph film's first of course made more sense now it's like he's given you BI is saying you know the code about well."

" yes and we you know we weren't there just wasn't time and the writers didn't have time to sort of develop that idea but you know. It's been there and maybe come -- maybe it doesn't but it definitely think it."

" This is cold isn't wild love that you came on to tell meetings like this we all want to hear. Sort of like what goes on behind you now to help bring more flavor to the character that's great. --"

" And you know I mean I'm mark valley did go to West Point. And so he it was definitely something it was important to him and down I'm sure that he would have liked to have gotten a little more into it in. It actually in the script but let -- say at least delete it was becoming respect him."

" As big a fan as I am a mark -- my favorite cast member -- remain. It was really -- to two capitals references like that matter but I didn't even pick up on my whole code of honor thanks thank you aren't. Now we're not gonna play sound -- from an accident scene you weren't -- but maybe if you don't mind sort of setting -- explaining it as we transition offered to. Where you're in a meeting with Shirley and and Brad. This the scene where deposition has been taken with the on dollar who has the well was your your opponent -- And she was in there with -- that you -- explain kind of the -- intensity of they were taking on her computer."

" Since Eleanor. They're having a good position to find out exactly what happened what transpired in you know what happened to Gerstein and -- actresses playing. The mother that was very got a -- very good and she's obviously very upset recounting what happened. And mark valley who is deposing her."

" Is essentially. Bringing up questions about whether or not she is. As she bears some responsibility. She's talking about she's a very good mother and should take care -- and of course which is all true but the fact remains that. That somehow this kid -- that -- game for. So long that he became dehydrated and and died at the marks bank so what that the I mean in terms of you know your parenting skills. And it intent because you can also tell that. No one is comfortable this planet. Questioning. They all understand that she is a good mother she's a single mother ship to job and yet this is what you have to do -- the other and that you know that and that's -- wonder what -- tension that move that Brad Chase Field. Going in the direction but is you have to."

" You know had a very stoic face but you know he use some later in conflicted about it immigrants at that point where. -- kind of look over him like a you take -- on -- and complex fires and it was his case that."

" I mean there's you know we've seen this before legend and and and shows about the compression is like you make it. You know and make a little bit of a deal with a double and here you've become a lawyer and you have to you have to do you think you don't feel comfortable."

" You're an advocate for your client."

" That's the right into the next semi this year in there and this is the seen wearing your."

" You've been called back in for a little meeting because them information has come to light and listen -- you can talk a little bit about having --"

" That was a problem. In responding to ms. Miller's production requests we came across something."

" When your company designed to help warn you commissioned a study that's."

" Document the effects -- game had on the players. Report states -- playing the game dramatically increases and opening levels in the players break. I'm aware -- insurance Chris is he's missed his -- can argue Malcolm games music games predictable missiles into the public including miners. Oh that's ridiculous this just concerning. Besides is an established fact that all video games increased the government levels in the brain. Always a good ones -- Other any other studies attorneys want his second point is in the ass. Now just one. We're required to turn this over to ms. -- as -- the rules of discovery will provide you with a 100000 other pages of documents that pertain to this production request. So we are gonna very you know that would be. It simply comply."

" Did you needed good job with the characters turns a slight shift in your seat -- the company that he."

" Platter because you need to see the freedoms of you know what I find about listening to the -- instead of watching dies years things that I didn't pick on require in her image and yes. So you know rethink your thumb and that's seen in how did you sort of convey that you were kind of caught but you -- you as a good CEO does come right back up with good dancer."

" Yeah well I have personal I have to confess to. One of the things are thinking about when I'm assuming that's you know and I and I tried to do it's a and aside it was oh my god that's Candice Bergen. I guess I hadn't seen enough has for some as Norton repair and I was -- I can't believe how much Candice Bergen looks like Candice Bergen. He had -- such and she had a real present you know I mean she's a real. Physicist bill forcibly it was a lot of fun."

" in yet I'm shirt I've heard is he. Very open and friendly and cattle -- doesn't mean."

" Yeah yeah she well it. And she was very actually very friendly they're going to demand and everyone Muslim and I had a great time working with mark to leave it really nice guy."

" It's fantastic I love to hear that you know you're in a working actor. But even you get a little bit like -- and -- Bergen."

" I totally. Sure I mean they got did not -- as bill Shatner recovered it. Acre urban star struck they did they admitted they made it very possible -- but anyway getting back the actual the scene. This literally funds in the play actually because. I had this. Secret and IA and yet there's a lot of stuff going on I don't wanna Chris smart doesn't want you know make -- friend man out. -- I didn't want to feel like he's pulling one note from him -- he's not really trying to. You know my take on him was that he wasn't lying. If you -- it was -- lies of omission. And shades of gray an asterisk banks so it was the only in the subtle stuff going on."

" In the corporate America as your character was no big deal the shredded documents in the you know and miss file that report and think Al."

" Yeah I don't even think that I mean might take I was there wasn't even that hysteria that was you know. I mean it is steadily sort of what what is the definition of is that. Of stuff -- You know I don't think they were setting out to make to make the game is really. Harmful -- You know you want a sort of explore all options -- master of strength though."

" They lived as complicated stuff they were doing and I think actually --"

" In just a personal site -- just popped him on my kind of forgot that being up here -- you know you're from -- being a theory you'd get kind of pulled in. Four I've I've been to couple of them Microsoft."

" Studies they their video games to go -- it with like twenty other people I was obviously."

" The only female and the oldest person that let's say Kennedy --"

" Watch and observe you and they monitor what you're doing as you work through these subtle acting and -- people up for our but I didn't have anything you know there was an -- I mean studies --"

" Aren't we didn't have like electrodes strapped now."

" didn't -- about that right so you started talking a little bit about. -- and international leaders spots as is gets kind of thing because you word in there with the three major cast members during a storyline. Your thoughts on each one and in any party tenant what's announcement. Let's just start with. Dad Triple -- today. This is this person you've acted with them now okay what what would."

" You know it was it was really -- and completely normal. And I wasn't intimidated at all because. We have a really good relationship to begin let you know and I really like them. And the music content professional and and that set the scene that we. -- together world you know we didn't really have that much to deal you know I mean so. It was just it was just fun. You know and and -- him if it was as we off elderly that I -- I get to work together and there guerrilla that we just out of stadium relatively happy you could help that it took a lot of."

" I -- an artist -- solid pitching like he didn't know this guy."

" Yeah but you know I mean again I mean that -- he. He does pollutant and acting and it's not you know and it is just do -- both actors you know acting. You know it -- good confront but it was there was work to."

" More thoughts on mark valley and -- in the end and I just for my personal --"

" Sure I mean you know mark valley is a really really nice guy and he is I I can't seem to be so. Good the -- What he does you know keys relative hard to understand is relatively untrained actor. But he has a real -- Skill and he just modulated aren't permanent I mean he really knows how to act for television it was great to watch him you know and."

" After being very basically stoic didn't and straight anyway it's not like he's at. Denny crane."

" Yeah he's you know he's he he plays it he plays -- straight but he gets a lot of different shapes and colors merits great -- got -- incredible -- and embezzlement and stirring up to capitalize. But he was he was awesome he was great you know once because -- was really friendly and had a great time working with them."

" You know thoughts on candidates surely."

" That essentially very friendly but she also has to contend the image you think run down you know and she yeah she definitely is Candice Bergen. In outlook and -- that she has this sort of -- she had a bit of a regal bearing you know not not a net negative and at all but she definitely. Like -- have a bit of an aura around her and done it was I mean."

" You know if you really can -- going to cost around like that a couple of times like wow that's really hurt OK and Adrian focused."

" I have in the nine Emmys to I mean that's a -- in Atlanta and forget about it brown bear brown and the blockbuster awards --"

" usually go and watch on the front page of Boston past the hour."

" We have a nice we'll take off that mad TV did on Boston legal and should betrayed I mean it's it's humorous on -- kind way but she's great in Marion."

" Oh I know I have seen that was black --"

" Yes principles and I don't underscore yeah. The memory here a quick SoundBite on that as you find out as you explain a little bit mart to Brad about why. It's okay that. That this -- and he comes out because company's brand needs a little upset about them -- cracked. Let's listen that he can comment on that after --"

" But you said there was nothing else doctor Williams is psychologist we hired to consult on how to make games more appealing to the consumer it didn't work out we fired him it. Not a big deal Chris. We need is he's thrown out now while it's only for an injunction got a woman with did -- the jury is going to want to make somebody pays for that now scheduled for this doctor Williams to make your games more Dick de -- I started with nothing I built this company I employ hundreds of people I didn't do anything wrong. Okay great you'll only for twenty years -- doubting me Chris just isn't about -- just about getting rid of this case quickly union quietly. No maybe we should consider settling the known unknowns. Mean. -- it is an admission of guilt and how cool games he's not going to be escape gonna ask me if this goes public."

" He'd rather be in the press than to just did you know satellite and at the year. You guys knew what you're doing the Brattleboro -- airline ever mention."

" No but it actually my my take on -- word I gave myself a little more Crittenton. I would rather. I think Chris -- Really believes in his company and what he does and I I think he really does he I think you really doesn't think. But in the the end of the day. They didn't do anything wrong. They are responsible for the kids that -- You know I I don't think he's coming from from that negative about the play -- but I'm willing to take that he because I believe went back."

" You know kind of expect it makes me think again Seattle area."

" Makes me think of Bill Gates and is hoping that the DOJ about an hour right I'm pushing his IE money into -- operating system and you think I can't you know fair competition this is like free enterprise right and that's all that Chris was doing he was. He was but not the best product and every magic -- over the other video games out there -- and on about that is free enterprise."

" And that's well and you know from his point of view absolutely something that every other CEOs and has had a different coming -- do -- listening but that's what you gotta do."

" The fact of the matter is the kid died because he was too into the game many he kind of confused reality with. And he did it to want to confuse thought he was gonna get killed in -- us this is not the game."

" In you know I mean this is it jumping had a little lived just on that point. And earlier incarnation of the script Adam at the end of it had a both Brad and I'm looking back at the a mom. After we want and having a real look of you know. -- now pay cut that out for me. And in Nebraska has that but -- So that would have been a little more a little more shading and current equipment character -- what we would have realized that he really did feel worse than then what. Eventually ended up and show."

" I am a bit too bad that was."

" Yeah my you know it is really it. -- moment so I am I totally understand it."

" And I next we want to play semite and this is actually doctor Williams who you might have been great. And that would be initially because actually a thickening early when a parent I I saw that Evan Paul Lewiston was supposed to be. Doing that examination on the stand with aliens and would have been YouTube. But it just everything changed asked about that. And then also this a brings in. At the attack they're turning on Hubbard who -- just been in. A lot of episodes already the practice and aren't as part of the stable of actors that David joined by its back."

" So I may be lost your opinion a little bit after it sound bite at a house for the job."

" Actually -- Here clinical psychologists. Why -- games hiring him. -- game was already popular. But the company want to save the desire to play the game to the next level. In other words change the motivation from I want to play this game. Two I have to play this game. And how they go about doing that it starts is causing an adrenaline rush the most effective way to trigger that rush is an excellent thing that they're going to die. How do you know that. We measure the effect in Truex the first is blink rate and second. We monitor the amount of dope I mean just produce while playing the game what is the significance of these don't -- me. Don't mean is a neuro transmitter. It's also connected to the reinforcing effects of drugs like cocaine and amphetamines. It's often called the master molecule of addiction and why is that significant in terms of this. Playing this video game just like receiving a jolt. Equivalent to an injection of amphetamines. And my duty was helped create a game that would maximize still -- but. For the play -- You were deliberately trying to make this game physically addictive. Yes. Doctor Williams who -- your supervisor -- games. Bob Kendall this title vice president of marketing the marketing not a secret brain addiction researchers something like that objection sustained so you worked in the marketing department -- games. Yes now as a marketer when you're selling iPods or breakfast cereal or soft drinks -- isn't what are your primary concerns how to like get consumers to buy my product. Of course you've been employed by a heroin dealer."

" Crews were encouraged yeah. Heroin dealer doesn't need -- higher marketing department because the products they sell really is addictive as opposed to video games which aren't is that correct some Chechen. Nothing's further."

" Well yeah that was another example of where he just needed to duet an attorney does and make it clear that that wasn't them. You really relevant okay."

" Now how much -- by this a lot of time courtroom scenes here and you're sitting there at the table are watching has gone down what is did that users out what was it like sitting there for probably -- day."

" I had. Yeah there was. I have to admit that it time they would like for -- 314 year old Connecticut. Had. Marketer and and I. We had a very good time now. When the cameras are rolling. You know you were hand and we were behaving and ended up but at Kennedy as it is that's what we were usually cracking up about."

" threatened not to laugh at."

" Yeah I mean you know I mean -- fund doesn't currencies -- but they're really long. And it takes a lot of time and so. You know you attend -- sort of try to immune."

" give me examples go ahead."

" You know I can't I inner exactly what -- title what we're laughing about I would -- I think I don't you but it is probably wouldn't I wouldn't even be funny now it just just kidding each other and like -- making making fun of data each other's reactions are not there yet just a step I mean just really amateurish stuff."

" Even the name he is somebody especially Rene Rene restores a specialist he's in America I gonna record now -- the worst period of almost -- That's -- and in your directors still tolerated it house."

" Absolutely. He had a lot more to worry about you know I mean he's got he's in you know I'd like you know twenty people pulling out of editing given time."

" Oh yeah if you try not to create more work mortgage is up there -- to -- carry ourselves. Away. I believe didn't go hang out."

" You can't well actually it it. You can't every once in awhile. Because you know when they turn the camera try to -- an -- it takes it takes a half an hour it's release that's a that's when you go back here to hear your room or or craft service stable or whatever. You don't Phillip on wage much copies but. And so we were released."

" But there weren't a lot of sitting at a table. You know just just waiting for the capture."

" Any thoughts on now the judge and I. They asked exactly does that mean hasn't been a west wing and help these wonderful things."

" I'd seen him on many many showed actually he's a great guy he's really an. You know we've all seen millions of judges and anxious but I thought he was really Barack. That authority and moral authority. It's got that great booming voice. He actually told me if at least once today if someone remarks about. How much of -- Georgia. Well and he found a lot like him. I -- he had a sort of spam gravitas that he that he was a really -- everybody was really it's such a workshop."

" That's actually O'Connell attorney the attorney John."

" Yeah -- used I I thought he he was really interesting he. Another really nice guys. Sort of shy com funny guy. I'm and he brought a really nice quality. You know a very sort of opposite sort of quality to Brad chase. But -- interest thing. You know the pleasure a pleasure to watch."

" I did a good arguments I particularly enjoyed in this is where we get to hear the attorney mark Newman we've talked about him and -- his -- beyond -- cigarettes smoked in what smoking and why that wasn't addicted to and then the wonderful Brad closing."

" Which will hear and act. Where he does stayed there are real addictions after almost an insult to say that -- as an addiction like what's in your iPod."

" Why I was sixteen I smoke cigarettes for a week because a friend of -- soft. I quit. Never smoked again and thank goodness it didn't hurt me by tobacco companies have been found liable assessed penalties in the millions of dollars because cigarettes are addictive. And they do kill people. Your honor -- this case we're in the same position as -- people who first brought legal action against the tobacco companies forty years ago. Lawsuit after lawsuit against tobacco was thrown out of court. How many people died as a result. And now we got a boy who died playing a video game -- game scientifically constructed to make him addicted to it. Well everyone become addicted to us now but other children will become addicted your honor and there will be other deaths. -- Who's responsible for the death of Wesley valor. Your honor I know I'm supposed to be -- just passionate advocate for my client's position but. I have to tell you that this case and -- just makes me mad. You see I know someone who is addicted to -- massive. This lethal truck -- she had to stop using it. So why -- people talk about being addicted to their Blackberry to soap operas video games believe me. Anyone who's addicted to crystal meth to suddenly wave a magic wand and be addicted to video games -- they would do it in our hearty. Thank you heard testimony that. Playing this game raises your -- meanwhile. We don't deny that. But the fact is anything you enjoy doing raises -- don't mean level sports. Chocolate exercise -- on and on and on -- Einstein was developing his theory of -- Hampshire that is -- we always through the roof where do we draw the line between addiction. And passion. The fact is yeah. This case. As an insult to anyone who has a real addiction to harmful substance."

" No we are all -- that. Wesley Mallard was dead. But now games and did not cause his death and."

" He's alluding to Paul Lewis and situation with Rachel -- taught and shown. I'll just say it's an airline oh my -- The in his eyes that was coming up in and then watching and they're my husband of other amounts fellow pedometer like. This is an inning moment for sure yeah I hope that he is recognized with this because. Men when he said in his office anymore automatically defense have released in his office and had -- out with her at the very -- you know the first steps that that she was an amazing. -- Speaking -- powerful staff. Romeo like mrs. dollars looked at Brad at the end of that steam in this withering there's just gonna bring his neck."

" Yeah it's pretty. Cheap and -- is really good. -- can only rose."

" Gonna trap that's it's gotten -- she is has been an attendant -- acted with chemists are murky brown. There you have -- Chinese and then a bunch of Davey Johnson theaters and on appeal and then number brotherhood of only New Hampshire. The short how are created the ads and she's just sign onto a new pilot sharpness that James Woods won -- called shark and she's gonna be in Matt. While the pilot at this point but yes it. So any thoughts on that closing it was there probably like going yes you know he's he's -- it big time -- character."

" Yeah obligated indefinitely with a sense. You know. Brad has and -- when he needed to do to win this case you know I was very and the -- was very pleased. Obviously come after that I mean. It was and it was interesting watching due back at me as the character as well because I concede that he was -- I didn't know I you know Chris my doesn't know what's going on call and daughter of course but. Brad -- talking about in. It's pretty personal stuff I was critics -- watching. I thought both -- guys that really extra clothing closing arguments. And you know that the very hard. Very hard to do that closing argument and debater obviously is the master. At this incredibly long. Closing arguments I love watching them by just watching these guys give them with a lot of tax. To do in one long that long -- of the book the great job."

" Two that was two minute dialogue and you know which I think does that Brad and the majority of it you're right despair and stick it had almost four minutes of yeah."

" that that's an. That's a very intense. There."

" And I last podcast we talked to -- Coughlin who's the who's the defendant in that dictates and she said that he did it the first time the first take about."

" Missing -- unbelievable thing I know how did affair with these guys did they get up there and do it might take it they have and I really laughing. At the start over."

" So they were laughing because it -- serious stuff you know I mean they I think they each did it. A couple of time. There may have been improbable here and there but I think you know they they they did it and -- would come and give them a couple of adjustments. Nothing big because -- these. To hackers know what they're doing. But he may have said at this point. Give us a little more conviction here or -- you know I mean. These guys don't like -- knew what they're doing so you know I didn't have to turnaround of much as. For the most part they they got them. They got a pretty quickly."

" Well I hate to see the storyline and it's an in with the verdict -- president here in seconds and then and you you know you're hearing that you're talking your very happy and not talk to your chance at."

" After reviewing the papers and the evidence presented. I agree with mr. chase. The defense's motion for summary judgment. Is granted we're juror. Congratulations. I knew we'd win but you never really know until it's so nice. Yeah we're gonna buy you dinner the cost -- Chris takes time. This -- I'm truly sorry advice on."

" I'm sure mishandled an excellent student."

" That's when I believe that I believe he really wants -- yeah tell me what an Internet freak I am I still had to Google McCloskey steakhouse this just wanted Boston."

" No I don't think. If and they you know their -- from Boston and on the you know very want to make it sort of tie to reality -- And many thought that that if you -- got up and walked out of that."

" Like I said before they can -- a little bit of like Brad and Christians shared moment with the with the mom and I sort of missed that a little bit but. -- wonder what I was saying before about how in the original one of the original scripts it was obvious that Chris Meyer shared. Brad. Feelings of sadness about what. -- happen to the mom they were walking out originally it was they both look back at the mom. They I think -- time or whatever so they'd decides to commit to grab -- This. Seen actually was the one that was going to the sort of worried me the most is an actor because. If that's just sort of casual exuberant. I sometimes find difficult and luckily I -- it turned out just such like anybody no problem IRA. That's sort of stuff I find -- typical but I I was pleased with the way it but it worked out."

" didn't seem over the top didn't you weren't like I you know I prevailed against this -- mother -- was he worried you were pleased that he did. You you would just coming off of listening to him solid in such an emotional way and you're proud pretty proud of that and you probably."

" I think it's a three into Chris is probably pretty happy that."

" His buddy from Annapolis."

" Really believe -- them and decide -- like and stick it like is that when Melissa said Alan you're just gonna have to find some way to believe in my my cause is."

" Exactly. Exactly and you know it's the same time also in the back my mind. And I -- about Paul's mind is the fact that I am. As CEO of 500 million dollar cost and I am giving this firm all my business. That's also there as well a little bit you know."

" I would like to see you back then the -- case for."

" I don't know that I would do but I don't think that it."

" I don't know you know we got a Steve Crist might do in the perp walk some things did not like that now this -- retirement plans and."

" drag something to come maybe tomorrow I'll -- to read lean on them to you."

" for the holy see them coming up I heard it in neat thing at all about it is -- three has been. Confirmed I mean."

" We do not now that it's we you know although. Well it is any indication that people in the make a trailer. I appreciate come back and they probably have more inside get excited."

" They know everything they hear everybody's talking impact."

" Yeah you know I mean this thing about that is I mean I'm not really going to ask abide -- I will say this -- I think people feel relatively -- I'm confident about it because. It's equality show and it's sort of like strongly in the middle and you know the body doesn't hurt."

" No that's true that's a really good time."

" Yes so I mean Finnish prospect I think it would be a real tragedy if it did come back."

" And I mean posted -- talked about this except to husband but you know I protocol all we can Apatow brand. And ABC producer that doing like a video montage for the -- friends in May aren't me. And they wanted to talk to -- Why at Washington and do a little."

" In home video interview as a part of it and are selling."

" And do it for each of their Desperate Housewives and aren't selling that the excitement from super fans aren't that designation super bad but so -- wouldn't be spending money -- why people."

" People don't as far as upright."

" If they were going to bring it back."

" Well thank yet another -- of oh yeah cry wolf thank you so much Adrian wow this is have been a great story line we're not finished yet but -- This is going to be a three partner -- change. Thank you very much for -- your thoughts on that are in line. Both fascinating conversation we have with your has been passed -- an attempt it's your turn now. Earlier you're on the hot seat we're gonna talk about what I like I'll be practical side of polygamy it says. You know you make a really good case for it. And there's no better way -- started out with a SoundBite where you and your counterparts your wife tropic Jesse -- Machines that you about making encased in -- we're gonna start that out and you may become a little bit about -- it was a really passed back and forth. And just urban and listening you bad with the -- character is the second part in the -- starts at 149 at street."

" 147 Ann -- street and I'm at 149 and nursery we may see each others -- we gonna cost fight together split everything toilet paper paper towel just -- to pack I have from London hedge -- we record and we both share friend. There's just one problem with the arrangement. It's completely illegal entry itself well for six years everything was fine but you know helping the start to talk and one day we came home with the children and ray was being handcuffed and arrested right in front of 147. And he's we've done nothing wrong there's no victim here to the contrary in this chaotic world we live in where there is no stability we found a way to raise -- family in a cooperative loving way. And now are being punished or I think that's wrong we all of you especially me. All -- he's been settled for a long time so it's time for change things we are very committed to us I know I am."

" Right. They hear that part during your additions -- it ends of those pretty challenging about the paragraph."

" Fire yeah. Close -- do you do with the casting director at the time."

" Yes I was done and I guess I just like your read it you know I just tried to keep it really simple as. You need to know your accused them."

" Impact it's a look at that and that was her mind to think of the paper and paper towels."

" Back place I don't think he did Brady get through it I think I did actually on -- and I think hey. You know had a little net they're about. -- instead I think."

" In the filming to -- nice and -- when."

" Other it it it it went they would it was actually there were a few times. In the beginning we needed to get used to you know where -- that's really the trick but it's not jumping in the first summit next because sometimes. They can get into a rhythm and then suddenly the -- and change is that -- step on the beginning of them about the fact that. You know there was this sort of a matter of getting used to get rid -- with the actual actors."

" Senior I don't think about it in real life I'm step up step all over you in your husband's in this broadcast right now. And I realized don't got to -- each other have their say."

" Yes yeah I -- it -- so I mean you know it's always good says you can overlap a little bit. Because we do that -- life but. But I think you know you don't let the other actor out if you don't want to comment before -- logical."

" The first scene you play that you felt this."

" What the first thing that we that we had a really good time and I think them. You know had he he has said US entity. That he was concerned about it being a little too they're cute he wanted to come up. Naturally and Cuba as he seemed very pleased with the F out that it had. You know so -- I was at first -- that we and and it's because we needed something like that and everybody -- happy pat it'll let it let -- to -- some of my because he'd be back. -- effective."

" Now why why pulled out of that as any all of us have been married for more than a few years finish each other's sentences all the time you guys are married UN Alina. The characters though he had you finished each -- just heard exactly exactly recycle it up Margaret Welch who played your counterpart in -- actually. Attention she got her first film credit was -- James spader in the new kids back and he five but she's -- and she's been it's been in the practice random checks reacted with Julie Bowen and -- improper at."

" Brady had HI thought about that."

" Any thoughts on her isn't counterparts."

" Well. Maggie I knew brown. I had actually been doing a play. -- day Yale wrapped. -- I didn't pay their last he would you know play. Along live theater and Billy were about to do pay that very few months but the same time I got over a little -- And then it was really fun to -- it it was Maggie."

" So -- on the -- southern end."

" I now right now yes we have a lot of it's apparent that she has eight one that perhaps -- old daughter. You know I think -- that the baby that black background in terms of being new moms as Adrian and I just moved here to Los Angeles and nagging at her husband. Was also an actor John Michael. Again. I think I can't believe it I believe I am. They're both actors -- was really great because you'd be hearing gets it now. You know a little bit about what their -- that the like that they relocated to Los Angeles. And -- to have had a buddy they're like to take to you know had a couple could. Have fun kind of playing off of her."

" That's -- can't you tell you spend a lot of time sitting in the in the courtroom chairs on the carriers than the area behind the table and realize it's time to -- with your kids around shift of."

" We did I brought above but it's the seventh -- I've read that we're gathering."

" While allowing just heard from Julie Brown has -- power on that you just at the diesel insight -- her and how you -- along with coming on meeting her."

" It's really the main thing I I had remembered her from that I remember right you know I'd -- Internet. And that of course. It's got I think a lot -- out on a deadlocked --"

" You pick out. Company girl watch in the ABC's hands."

" Yeah well we. Kind of break we. Eight we had joked that that's what. Product labor for me because my. That they needed to -- and and EO we tried everything now that they're that. Look at spoke at remedied natural remedies that it was pretty intense back and I think because it's just like Mac depression and you could get everything and then finally we had -- Netflix. We had blocked a dot Netflix -- we blocks like a lost marathon I went into labor during I. Think I am. Do you getting back to Julie Julie is key just I think. Such a good actress and she's you know like any good -- very different when -- person and she's incredibly smart incredibly funny not a character isn't bad. They do a little irreverent which is out."

" They're very nice way to saint basic classes like a sailor."

" Yeah. I would because you know he's he's definitely. Going to want to give give the impression that if the limited vocabulary as he can. Credibly great but no he's just funny to nineteen everywhere it is accusing. And now a lot of times it great and kids that. She also it was. Great to watch her do what she does is such a thorough and and I -- you know I haven't been many companies that as time. Comedian I'm terribly used to that we've met here and I'm not an it department and so it was done. -- Political -- as a human and had control of her work it was. He is if something wasn't going that you want you to stop -- separate group and start again and -- the editors but you know find it. Workers --"

" I want to play another sound bite us is actually when them that your understanding actually. You talk about what your job is and why it's really there's a practical advantage to having a wife and -- you sold the judge on that."

" After without a theory that about India -- deterrent as well because she's great."

" Yes it."

" It's not religious it's practical. I'm a dietitian and mercy hospital and what is every working mother always lead. I wish I had a wife well. I actually do. Imagine leaving the job and never having to worry about day care laid babysitters nightmare -- is your child gets sick you know someone you trust who loves your children. Someone with a warm home -- healthy homemade meals for your children and has a lovingly prepared dinner waiting for you when you walk in the door. Someone who Bakes it sounds wonderful. Continued. And our kids love it too. At anyone time there's a parent can give a hug some advice share a story at least these days are no longer together scattered across the country of ours is simply another form of an old fashioned extended family."

" we kidding it's about the sex. I'm a stay at home mom I have three kids ages one to six this 247 breastfeeding potty training -- solid food diapers ear infections dishes homework toys chaos raising children is the single most exhausting job ever anywhere anyhow -- didn't make myself clear I'll say it again is the most exhausting job ever. Don't you think it's absolutely an objection. Good sustain. It's strike that last remark even though it's completely true. China you were. Telling us not sexist oh yes. I love my children and the by the end of the day I am bone tired my husband comes home he's tired too but somehow he still has a little energy for maybe making. Now we weren't traditional marriages on moment we would have an explosive argument machines were not when I am not exhausted and he has that look in his I. I simply shift -- to an event where she satisfies him and she -- and then I drawn myself and I can't ask. You mean the paper."

" Distinctly hear the jets -- So LA and ended the second half of that machine says it's about the actually kittens opinions about avoiding the specs at. -- character gets its that a pick up the lack manner. You are all day today isn't -- a moment a bad parent."

" I'll ever says that was pushing you you were worried as a dietitian your character is concerned about having home cooked food there and on the eighth branded. Any thoughts -- and I'm just filming that --"

" Well I mean I think I think it went back. Doin' pretty it was -- I -- pretty good argument thank you. Both the from both perspective they're different reasons why it's good to have another woman around."

" Doesn't pay -- made that you know who."

" Yeah. Now I mean you know I think. X a little it was interesting to me that that they didn't talk about divorce you know I take my family that's scattered across the country. The way that I thought about it as the site and I have broken up these days it has so many how many children are raised. In. As they other storyline demonstrates you know with single mothers done. Or mystical parents. Or you know splitting their time between two congress and by the fact that. You know this makes it possible are added that this is that -- a very together family and a very united family."

" A lot forbid the two I too because that would be pretty hard to sort of control us. The -- situation."

" I -- I think about it now I have course HBO's big love that all you drafting Matt these days. How perfectly timed you know I know I'm gonna do had a friend that collect their cattle thing -- let's."

" That's great it's a whole community of polygamy has --"

" It's -- very well timed. But I do think it's wonderful that. Likely -- that before you -- that possibly has taken. This issue. That a as a way of -- thing. The fact that marriage debate the merits that country's changing. Don't match with -- like gay marriage. At the Pentagon on."

" Put some soft weight now that's sort of the political. That's not the before and the congress right now about. -- marriages and domestic partnership."

" And exactly at that at I think. You know people here polygamy and they just and they your arm and and them so I think it's -- that that spam is like you know -- like it's not religious it's practical you know it's that this doesn't have anything to do with religion. The event so it here's that cliche it has little bit spent -- back."

" You mentioned it that they heard bring up increasing your situation in -- and your words it'd come talk about the divorce rate -- it. They did when doctors clinic took the stand cheese. There saying -- it's wrong. But in the end in I think any kind of turn that Iran does is it -- Biden can talk a bit about."

" Being in the courtroom."

" Claiming what's agreement mr. and -- and mrs. Richardson's relationship isn't unusual yes I would and we do greed it is unusual because it works. Well all parties are satisfying the children as we've proven earlier well adjusted it tells -- to work just connect. Yes I suppose so. And -- when the clintons laws were enacted 200 different social and economic construct. Meaning what meaning that women -- a lot of work they weren't affects less powerful than they are today. There reliance on their husbands was more substantial. One could agree for the record. To divorce rate in this country approximately 43%. 43%. And with statistics and extramarital affairs. Conservative estimates say that about 60% of married men and 40% of married women will have an extramarital affair at some point one could argue that already practicing polygamy in this country we just haven't institutionalized -- check your honor."

" We just heard that was them doctor claiming played by Jennifer Parsons and you want the one -- that we have haven't learned so -- she was in deep space nine hey. I wonder had been and execute at one point and."

" Yeah probably I didn't say anything about it."

" Two episodes stands in the now we. Heard just a second just a moment we heard Fran the 88 Richard -- who has played at a wonderful while his column Doug west and because I've thanks and a west wing think it really looks like. But he's also has seen and and actually. Makes a little bit the connection with any any thoughts on those concerns that you were working with and the currency in which was most of your scenes action while it."

" Yeah. You know everyone was just. Very welcome I went. Very well prepared to hand battle with a knowing it was it was. -- Create a black people are. He put it because there was this line up he he kept saying you're twisting statistics. And he could not I mean it's a tongue -- we are he had a suspicious because it was like every time he got up its objection your honor she -- statistics it was like he couldn't get it out and hand. And then we were all you know hitting back in the -- good to 585050. That no one could say it either I just like I had a they -- defend -- against a but you know I think it's tough it's really tough being in the -- there which I learned that when I did -- on our parity original on -- But first it is my first television job is my first day. And the first thing that I did was a master. I mean on the witness chair I'm talking at Sam Waterston. And there was even the whole courtroom is there and there's tons of people that time the cameras. And here on the stand and I -- Simmons said it and it afraid at a very nervous -- like. Oh you know I've -- in Shakespeare plays. Why -- I wouldn't be spent little paragraph -- speech and I got there and I was totally nervous and it really through my focus. You know just having all this other stuff kind -- going to be in the hot seat. So. He Jennifer you know he he can see it like any actor even at even if you really experienced its its that you're in the hot seat there. And them any kind of we need to come in to do that and that's why you have to do. It's -- it's up at that look. And then first -- are those really in watching him -- that closing. They met and which you know it wouldn't need at least just sitting down but the closing statement it and a walk around that."

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" That's true and lot of words and any news bringing in all these we have somebody for the Evans began all these examples of that the slippery slope argument -- what we -- have a millionaire billionaire -- a thousand women think and involve a tax deductions and you walked in -- new -- it. Twist and statistics -- and."

" Can ticket kicks yep but he he did great with it and it's just a matter of time that watching. People. You know just letting them have the space that they need and and not distracting people another thing that happened with television. A lot it is and with -- market that. It was a camera is not on you. There -- any is that you know so. Some actors. Really just sort of don't act defeat when Aaron they're about it any easier voice you know we. So some actors really don't act that -- and that's when a camera on the other actor over your shoulder -- and and I really appreciated the fact that everyone that that was really -- about connecting and being really presents for people that they weren't on camera."

" I never thought of that have Preston you would be to have someone losers like dad died looking at you."

" Yes I bet -- Atlantic and it's really an excitement like rest. But it was done at the product Daryn and -- and cool I would agree to meet them to do in general. Yeah -- that he it and about it until knowing now that that money. He's -- couldn't do you need to give it. The planet they might have bid dead just yet again."

" Yes so that was something that would -- That was something that I really appreciated that everyone can series regulars to -- you to don't have to do that her. -- want to it was a really great aspect on the effect."

" They -- talked a little bit about how the director."

" Worked with -- and did he give you any advice or any direction and not that that may -- may be to seen differently."

" I am definitely it was an upgrade in the and -- and I and then there's speech and he was. Really concerned and wasn't as. They're that it was because it was. Beat it out. You know. Californians. Currently values I think just -- was there it is that this -- and that's how. -- you need to kept their direction and when I finally got it. What I there was one take that I really like."

" You can -- town well then."

" Yeah I could -- can still addicted to. Really quick and that means that now was fantastic. -- back and kept at a time. Every time we've finished a shot you know instead of paying it on a pay cut and that would --"

" How we see. Meaning you know have we edit it in the technical laying people and that. Cameramen and they kept peaceful whenever things like to anyone has always get it without any problem there -- except that it."

" How are always a lot of he's not yeah. It. On this final somebody want to play which is the verdict we would love I think it is a just a second longer you know we're -- time."

" Mr. Foreman has the jury reached a unanimous verdict we have your -- Well the defendant please rise."

" Let's say you."

" In the matter of the commonwealth versus ray Richardson. On the count of polygamy. We the jury find ray Richardson. Guilty."

" The defendant will be remanded into custody we aren't parents."

" There was just be a verdict which as you were found guilty and done. And you had to cut in you look pretty distressed at the end but maybe you'll come back in you know about this is not all right."

" Great now -- No I I think I think this is over but that was about it and -- know really wanted to Maggie and I have different reactions. That desperately a look at."

" Thank you so much for all the great insight in and -- managing meet Manning Adriana managing your son home in time."

" Pleasure David thank you."

" I really the sourcing more of your acting out here in LA."

" Well Adrian is that enough plutonium in IBM at that a trade talks. Coming up and we don't know the air date but."

" he sounded already then yes I'll look look for a look at -- yet he played an Albanian hit man. Hello music good music Canada that. And we'll -- you we can look forward to with you."

" Not right now I'm just trying to them. You know the -- anyway."

" You look great any if you had a second go over to -- Foreman the past nest with a dot org. Look at the images week someone recognized that put up side by side pictures about six government viewing your father. And this same similar poses and we're trying to look a little smarter than that it's come up on things like that. Thank you so much faster."

" Pat thank you don't care. It it but I."

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