Title: Here and Now for Thursday, May 21, 2009

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" I'm running on it here and now and who it's been a busy day already. President Obama and former Vice President Dick Cheney squared off in dueling national security -- species today. President Obama spoke after yesterday's voting congress. In which Democrats joined Republicans in stripping away the funding he'd need to close the Guantanamo Bay detention center and move. Prisoners out possibly to the US. A bomb on who's for weeks been hammered by Republicans on this issue is trying to recover lost ground. In his speech this morning he said that some detainees would be tried in federal courts others in improved but revamped military tribunals. Someone and -- US prisons and he said known as ever escaped a US super max facility. But he also said that assistant to handle the worst of the worst has not been set up yet."

" This is the toughest single issue that we will face. We're going to exhaust every avenue that we have to prosecute those Guantanamo pose a danger to our country. But even when this process complete. There may be in number people who cannot be prosecuted for past crimes. In some cases because evidence may be tainted. But who nonetheless pose a threat. To the security of the United States."

" Former Vice President Dick Cheney delayed the start of his speech until after Obama finished then launched into a defense of the Bush Administration policies. And warned Obama that he'd be making a mistake if he brought the worst of the worst of the detainees."

" Here I think the president will find upon reflection that during the worst of the worst terrorist inside the United States. Would be cause for great danger and -- in the years to come."

" the politics politics of the day in a few minutes the first the national security duel of words deacons have a stock Lewis pentagon intelligence correspondent for the Financial Times. To meet you first of all your sense of how this debate was carried out today."

" Wolf it's very interesting that President Obama laid out strong defense for what he wants to do to try to close Guantanamo utley staked his some internal opposition in his own government. Also Christian opposition from politicians on Capitol Hill on the essentially cut or five categories of prisoners at Guantanamo. Some will be tried in US courts. Of those who people before military commissions which he stressed would be. Restructured from the tribunals that the Bush Administration tried to use over the last seven years he said he would try and transfer fifty detainees to other countries. These there's a category of 21 detainees to US courts -- should be released because it shouldn't be in captivity. About includes the seven. -- Chinese leaders that we've been talking about in recent weeks but the most difficult one is -- he says there's a group of people who might. But need to be kept in detention indefinitely because -- can't be prosecuted for example the evidence against them maybe -- and up toward it and how much problems and I think human rights and civil rights groups. Are already criticizing. Dot effort essentially saying this is a company you form. Of the indefinite detention that the President Bush pursuits."

" Well and then the criticism from the right and from some and it in his own party's. Is where would they go home we've already heard people saying not in my backyard not in my state not in my prison. And and a Dick Cheney. Really attacked to that point today he said the step to close at Guantanamo came with little blue deliberation no planned. The idea now and I'm paraphrasing him and to bring some of these hardened terrorist into the US is one that I find myself completely agreement. It completely in agreement with with many of the president's own party and -- isn't going to be the biggest mistake to bring the worst of the worst terrorist into the US this. Is the one that polls show. That Republicans have of got a little brush are going on people have a fear. That these worst of the worst coming US prisons because they can't be tried -- going to end up on their streets."

" What -- how to minutes economists fear mongering technique of how -- gotten from extremists which. Support around the country President Obama are essentially -- the -- arc against he said no prisoner recover straight from a super max prison in the US. A one of the things -- US politicians. Are saying we don't want to take any of these people they're trying to encourage for example Europe -- of the detainees a European -- whole lot of second if you are willing to take beast in you because you think they're too dangerous. Why should we take them and so that the real political conundrum here and I think actually writing on the wall with there about two years ago and it was a vote in the Senate -- roughly 97 to zero might be in the capital about. Where senators -- we don't want that the detainees in our backyard and so the question is that if -- to going to -- to close Guantanamo is going to have to bring some detainees into the US which is no way around the."

" Demetrius again pentagon and intelligence correspondent for the Financial Times. Who do you think after today's speech got their point across the strongest."

" I think it did in some ways Dick Cheney's speech probably what his point across because it it was. I think shorter and more to creep into the point. I think President Obama have a difficult more difficult -- it but it's a very complex problem. And he was trying to lay out become almost. Legal argument how he would do it not a typical thing to do and sound -- so I think it's probably easier for her former Vice President Dick Cheney. But I think cause Obama at least at a clear attempts to explain what he wanted to do it."

" Demetris have a stuck near -- on an intelligence correspondent for the financial tough Financial Times thanks so much. Let's take a look now -- just how complicated this issue is as the Obama administration tries to deal with it let's turn to attorney Brent -- Who represents a losing data -- one of the most notorious Guantanamo detainees. He's accused of beating but not charged with being a senior al-Qaeda member and facilitator. About -- on previously it represented three British detainees. Who had been released and are at home. In Britain. Rent the Obama administration says something has to be done one time -- was not a problem he created its economy has to solve. Let's talk about your client the Los Angeles Times today reports. The senior administration official said that some form of detention without trial. Was likely because with some of the -- suspects most of the evidence was received under coercive interrogation. Do you think that -- decline of zubaydah."

" We don't think that about my client. I think that it's much more likely that they could be referring to someone like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed -- his right to say about my client. My client was never needed any member of our Q and a much less a high level member of --"

" Second the government does say Abu zubaydah was a senior al-Qaeda operative he was the much they say before an -- only just get through it. He was convicted in absentia in 2000 his role in bomb plots in jordin. And the agent testified recently that after your client was captured post nine elevenths. That agent didn't get intelligence from him. Before he was -- ordered by the CIA and the Intel sentence he got was that Sheikh Mohammed was the mastermind of 9/11 sued the government that says. If he knew that he's he was connected to al-Qaeda."

" I can tell you categorically that the the camp that might client was allegedly associated with -- Cult. Was closed by the Taliban in 2000. After it refused repeated demands by the Taliban. To fall under the control of our kids they closed it to the campus rather then allowed to fall under the control -- okay."

" See you claim is anti al-Qaeda."

" He that is absolutely correct it could be camp and we will be able put on witnesses to this effect the camp. Disallowed. The discussion of politics. This is a long standing camps that existed actually to battle I mean despite the Communists and then the Communists in search."

" This'll be your defense weakened here of of your client Abu zubaydah again we have an FF BI agent testifying that he received intelligence from your client. Regarding Sheikh Mohammed the mastermind of the alleged mastermind of 9/11 could -- let's just push it forward issuer client. You say that's going to defendant is your client going to get a trial."

" I don't know he hasn't been charged which is having to think that this is due respect to your last question. They're used are contending that he is -- level. Allocated to me -- if that were so. Why hasn't he been charged as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has. Machinery has."

" Will this tail chasing that's going on right now on this is the problem that the Obama administration is trying to to figure out. Just hypothetical question. If you think as you sound did you do they that your client is completely innocent. If he were put on trial in the United States and freed would you want him in your neighborhood."

" Well I mean if he were based on what I know him I have to be very careful here because anything but a client tells me is is presumptively. Pop secret SCI. I can tell you that they are sent in to be a very engaging. Fellows who. In -- who has some real memory issues. Because of a head injury he sustained in 2000 and mortar explosion that has been exacerbated. Biden is torture he's had over 200 seizures. Since he was taken to Guantanamo in 2006."

" And we should intelligence papers in show that he was water boarded repeatedly."

" You talk about. The the one FBI agent whose colleagues define who says he'd. Gave information regarding Khalid Sheikh Mohammed you know I'm quite. Confident that bin Laden's driver whose free. Probably. Had information about Khalid Sheikh Mohammed as well in the fact of the matter is. People knew who these people were my gas it was a clerk former FBI agent. The end Coleman has reported that. My guy it was certifiable he's read his diaries and says he speaks and three distinct. Different voices and described him as a breeder he's cities we like chill with. At caesar's palace. Did you actually would I'd be willing to have him with in my country if you were -- to be innocent and that in my neighborhood theaters yet I can tell you that my former client. Or British residents be Sharaud -- I would be delighted if they lived in my neighborhood they were all week in this."

" Well you would like to see your client charged or released if he is charged given a fair trial. But in the meantime. Do you agree with the with the Obama administration that there are other detainees. For whom their may not be anything but tainted intelligence -- who can't be released because they are dangerous."

" I I I will concede that there are individuals who are dangerous who. The government. And has compromised the case to such an extent that they may not be tribal I don't know. Then I agree. Take you can keep those people without charging them and trying them I'm not. I got involved in these cases early on because I believed it was wrong. To hold people indefinitely without charge that's why I got got involved. Let me ask me to that question back to what will which they have a person. Who was innocent when picked up but because of just torture and treatment these many years. Has become so hardened against the United States did he keep people insurers is captors that he will go back to the battle."

" Lavinia attention puts -- an unreleased pentagon report will say that about one in seven of the 534 prisoners already transferred abroad from Guantanamo. Have returned to terrorism or militant activities."

" I've been disappointed in the Obama administration that people around the Republicans to essentially just apply. This year mongering. That was so prevalent during the Bush Administration. And it'll hopefully. They will get through their review of these cases. Fairly quickly and be able to come back and make some definitive comments. About it. The type of individual. Who is doled out."

" nick on the civilian attorney for a Guantanamo detainees Abu zubaydah and joining us on the line from Washington -- thanks so much. Okay just ahead the politics of today President Obama attacked the Bush Administration policy even opening Guantanamo Bay but. Former Vice President Dick Cheney fault of the Obama administration on a range of issues. For instance changing the name of the war on terror but also known as Cheney said downplaying it. Well here's the political war of words and Justin. And later in the program tracking swine flu does Wisconsin have more cases than any state in the nation because they're doing better detective work. Back in a minute here and now."

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" Welcome back as we've been hearing President Obama and former Vice President Dick Cheney sparred today in competing speeches on national security. President Barack Obama defending his decision to close the Guantanamo prison and promising to work with congress to develop the system for imprisoning detainees. Who can't be tried and can't be turned loose but would be brought to the US. Former Vice President Dick Cheney saying he doesn't hesitate. To draw sharp contrast between the administration's. Saying the Obama administration has prided itself on a tendency to search for the middle ground when it comes to terrorism."

" But in the fight against terrorism. There is no middle ground. And half majors keep you have exposed. You cannot keep just some nuclear armed terrorists out of the United States you must keep every nuclear armed terrorists. That states. Triangulation is a political strategy not a national security strategy."

" Let's bring in Mark Halperin editor at large and senior political analyst for time magazine also political analyst for ABC news. Marc Christian you'd use your thoughts on the morning."

" Well pretty straight dramatic and and pretty substantive unfortunately I think they talk a little bit past each other both of these -- and their camps are very aware of the politics in the political statements both can speed on things pretty badly they have but the political and substituted it but -- do think they talk a little bit past each other terms of what they wanted him to."

" Well and give us some sense of where you hear that."

" Well you know it's added a lot light can. That Barack Obama from the campaign. Trying to make the argument. That his policies are not just morally right and things needed to be done to restore American standing in the world but but making the argument appealing to many Americans. That that -- ideas and his policies will make America safer even if they do right -- some of -- harder line policies of the Bush Administration. But -- think the vice president who wants to make the argument. It kind of cherry -- in doing it that. That some of the the policy the president has pursued. It is you would make America less safe and to defend America's policies under eight years of -- of his government."

" Here's some of their words Barack Obama. Saying as he said that some detainees would have to be imprisoned in the US at Guantanamo Bay close down a very few but. That they couldn't be tried because the evidence against them was tainted. A direct jab at the bush administration's interrogation techniques he also said nobody's ever escape from one of our super max prisons. Which told hundreds of convicted terrorists already a jab -- sort of the campaign by the Republicans. Says fear monger attend 22. Race fear in people that these terrorists will be walking among them. Cheney on the other hand saying that president Obama's decision to close Guantanamo came with a little -- deliberation and no plan. And that it bringing these hardened prisoners to the US these terrorists to the US. If they are released if they're treated to -- leniently they'll cut us straight path back to their prior line of work. And will in the conduct murderous attacks in the Middle East and he says several already have. So in other than the sort of the swords are out."

" Well they are and and again you know you can talk about -- the politics of it in the policies separately but I think. The reality is the missing piece of this that wasn't as discussed by either man -- I think should have been. Is where where we are and it is for at least some of these people in Guantanamo. Is it military tribunals or special -- that will tried them in a way that I think actually in the end will be perfectly satisfactory for -- Dick Cheney and Barack."

" When questioned how they get set up and -- the other issue Richards really quickly. It is a bit of a strong effort to the president I think to raise a most of these members of congress point two are demagoguing. Are not concerned that that these people somehow beat them in their neighborhoods. In a way that that don't break loose but rather that their communities to become targets of terrorists. If they're held locally in their -- I think that's a legitimate concern and hasn't really been working."

" Well the president is going to work with congress and we mentioned this yesterday in the program. The state of Montana for instance people in one -- their say that they have a state of the art facility where some of these detainees could be housed. But. Vice President Cheney former vice president Cheney's. Conclusion that some of the low risk detainees who have already been released have gone back. And gone back into the business of terrorism from your thoughts on the report in today's New York Times that. One in seven Guantanamo detainees transferred abroad has returned to terrorism that 74 out of 534. Prisoners we just heard from a lawyer who questions that the number of but it does Dick Cheney have some traction there."

" Well he's got less detection and you might think because of course -- orally under the Bush Administration. So -- for the Democrats who want to make the argument that Dick Cheney has the credibility are standing to argue we mean we kept you safe in this administration quote that that's questioned about their policies and their judgment they're very. Relatively few people want this is not tens of thousands of people. And I think what you're what you're going to see this administration do because because the president clearly is -- politically. About the accusations that he's not making these bounces -- way is to try to go through these people one by one. Not in a cookie cutter way but it carefully to pick which ones may be should be and other countries which went needs some sort of military tribunal. And perhaps in some cases which went should be released but I think once -- were down -- and given the military and political -- The Obama administration I wouldn't expect wholesale release of these people particularly given the New York Times story referred to."

" But we're talking politics more than strategy -- and national security although they are intertwined. We just stay with politics what do you think the fallout from today's going to be."

" Well you're gonna be Republicans. Decide whether they want around behind Dick Cheney -- you know as -- as -- and villain with in the Republican Party about whether detainees the -- spokesperson for them the best person they can. He doesn't have credibility because command attention of the public in the press. That's positive he's not very popular and and it's very easy for Democrats to demonize him and and by the patient. The bush Cheney policy. On the other hand. That the president does still some political vulnerability there and it's you know that's a little bit to your tea leaf reading. But I think he's on his part yesterday more uncertainty. Less. A black and white shirt it."

" That that he knows what the right thing to do it has been in -- negative feelings retreated to CNET. Reflected in some of the policies he's taken a position to take which are different that would -- a victory."

" mentioned the polls and Dick Cheney's poll numbers were so low they they could only go up but they have inched up just a little bit last couple days so we'll see what happens Mark Halperin. Editor at large and senior political analyst for time magazine. And ABC news mark thanks so much. I'm -- back in -- news I was more of everything that's going on this busy day. Here and now."

" April foreclosures were up 32% over lasting posts and as we've repeatedly heard that means. More abandoned homes overgrown lawns mosquito infested swimming pools broken windows. Well now one California city has made that neglect illegal. Indio California about a 120 miles northeast of San Diego. Passed a -- whereby all abandoned properties have to be registered with the city and maintained girls the owner in many cases and out of town bank. Faces fines that could surpassed 25000 dollars and also face a criminal misdemeanor charge. Other towns in the area have -- Chula Vista has find banks since 2007. In neighboring Palm Springs there's an ordinance that finds lenders -- 2000 dollar today in if they don't pay. Attacks lien is put on the home. But the police chief in -- says he's going further he will arrest the bank CEOs if they don't pay the fines. Police chief -- joins us and chief Ramos have you arrested in union."

" No that's (%expletive) immediately. We are getting compliance and refining that the compliance. Going make a phone call to the bank's. Chairman of the border the CEO and actually talk to their office. -- response was less than 24 hours in some cases. And no more than a day in and out and other cases."

" I'm amazed in getting through because -- and underscored these are not in this isn't the local bank down the street where you know. The chairman of the board these are the big banks that bundled a lot of these mortgages right."

" That's correct that's part of the problem we have -- it takes some good investigative work from our our people to find out who actually -- that in the beginning about a year and a half ago. We had some trial and -- being. -- from one called senate to another call center and now we just went right to the corporate office and getting the answers that we need."

" So what do his conversations like. Hi and the police Steve from Indio California."

" all personally call and say you know let's speak to let the responsible party is. For the idea corporations treated them like to speak about a cruel -- because I don't want to embarrass the -- president. Foresee you know. Eleven arrests -- mr. Leo violations into California and that tends to get the attention. And the results that we're looking for a community."

" We understand that there was a pool full of algae on eagle bend court and Citigroup paid. Over 3000 dollars in fines to the town can you give us and other examples."

" Yes and other examples as you just -- was notified on on one particular property and with an Indian have to -- crew up there security at it in the local. Property management company. To alarm make sure that they stayed in maintaining. The other components that we have on this atom processors. That we work in order -- property management companies. And have told them that if you bring the property into this program. And you bring it up to of the neighborhoods standard -- when they get neglected we're finding those homes -- are going for ten to 25000. More as -- it was a straight foreclosure or short sale just by maintain in the property keep in the graph. Making sure that there's any damage so we've made it wins were via real estate perimeters that are in the area. And it makes it much more attractive for a bank to unload that property if it's in the program it's actually getting more money. --"

" We're all pleased chief -- again from Indio California. Winston that you're areas one of the highest in foreclosures in the country just I was in Palm Springs and saw a development with five house is standing in about. 300 foundations. The developer had gone out of business. A lot of tough scenes there can you if you could just paint a picture for people outside the county to get an idea of why if you had to take this step how bad is it what are you seeing."

" Well what I was concerned about it -- didn't want to become -- Rust Belt in the Sunbelt. We didn't want to count -- over throwing -- we didn't want to have political -- windows. Doors that were taken off into -- in -- problem we have two point 6000 single family homes and a person is about 84000 people. Of those a year ago in January of 2008. 4% -- housing stock was enough pre foreclosure foreclosure. In January 2009 added -- to 80% and I have about it. The thousand homes that are in foreclosure pre foreclosure. And about 500. Dead or or that we identified as being taken -- that we have registered under the program."

" That's Indio California pleased to read me -- he isn't forcing an ordinance that requires banks to take care of foreclosed properties or. Get a call from him and even and be arrested. Chief Ramos thanks so much -- thank you Robert. Came back in thirty seconds with one city's attempt to -- swine flu. Here and now."

" Swine flu has moved off the front pages but it has not gone away claiming its tenth victim in the US yesterday. -- Marcos scientist died in Salt Lake City, Utah. Health officials say he was more susceptible to the food because he was overweight head of the medical problems. Utah but let's stay would you -- has the most swine flu cases. Well it's Wisconsin with 885. The state has better tracking facilities than some of the states with five working -- But Milwaukee health commissioner Bevan baker says that's just part of the equation."

" We believe that may be the disease got to Milwaukee earlier than other areas of the country and this illness was very well and it may not have been. Noticed it first to think it being there were reiterating over and over to our community is that diseases prevalent here and you're more likely to get it from someone who's been here -- never travel that you would from someone who's been outside of the country."

" Well the number of cases in Milwaukee has tripled in the past three weeks the person responsible for monitoring how it's spreading and where is Angie -- And infectious disease epidemiologist in the city's head flu tracker. -- how do you track flu."

" health care providers report to us. About cases that they are diagnosed it we are pleased less traditional sources to try to get a sense of how much there was in the community because we know. Albeit small percentage of people get sick enough to go to the doctor and that's our contention that those are -- enough to be passed that we look at things like emergency department visits for it on economic and look at actions he isn't it that we would get over the counter. Drug sales or fever reducing it to try to get as much better picture of them out of disease circulating."

" We incidents have detective work half the medical know how take us through the first case of swine food appeared in Milwaukee an April 28. Now what. When you got that case where were we in the CDC's. Information flow about swine flu in the knowledge of the cases in Mexico and then how did you begin tracking that first case."

" One the first can trigger reported to us it would be very -- We hear what the severity of disease was if there was a lot of rumor injection and coming out of Mexico there weren't a lot of laughed and -- cases. There was a lot of hospital that they should not a lot of testing attack that out -- we really have a good picture of light kind of virus we are dealing with. And we were very aggressive in our initial cave in contact investigation. Just tried and that apply. Where this person could have gotten sick at that time that apple is without traveled to max."

" There was a story recently in the Boston Globe about a swine flu tracker here. This dramatic at one point she was at Logan Airport briefing officials there and what they should look for she's got beepers on her the beeper goes off. Alerting her to an affected swine flu case had been found in -- Harvard dental school student she racist don't. Harvard -- talk to officials there about. How soon when they -- closed on the clinic. Do you see kind of drama on the ground with your trackers out in the field."

" I would say yes -- there's a lot of people who are aware and very desperate for information currently not. Quickly within the city the number of cases is really very dramatically that there were many calls from who'll turn child care facilities from businesses. Say that they have a case or thought they had a case what should they do. Who incompetent workers school who can't come to work. Early and on -- trying to identify. The number of schools it would seem likely get get to a point where we had figured out which schools we need to close where somebody would come to mean if -- OK I have to keep it here is where. -- contact go to school on other -- symptomatic. And we go back and forth and try to verify who was in school where they symptomatic at that time. And we -- scrambling every day did try to figure out exactly the -- that needed to be closed at that way we can give. And notification. To use the schools to the parents to children at school and not be occurring the next day. It seemed like there was just a flood of information coming in early on about the cases."

" It's like having all the puzzle parts but not knowing what it'll look like yet. I ask you about the school closings in the -- we know at the very beginning of the outbreak about twenty schools were closed. I do to swine flu the Health Department in Milwaukee decided to reopen schools on May fifth in part because of this new CDC guidelines. Saying you didn't have to close schools. -- at the time that happened there are only 93 cases of the H one and one. Virus in the city today there are -- over 600. So do you think they're reopening the schools. Was not -- the right thing to do did it lead to more cases."

" I think the severity of the disease ever seen was fairly low these very early on realized that we -- small number of cases. They have to continue to close school for the one case you know about and not close schools for that twenty or thirty cases he didn't know about. He might it was. How much are richer area -- query you make."

" In other words you knew that there -- cases. In schools -- a new found them yet so."

" Right -- are we -- are we found and it was clear that people aren't getting severely ill -- the disease was spreading fairly easily. But you know our hospitalization rate remained well."

" It look for you when you map this out to literally have a map on the wall where you can. Seat in the cases is they're reporting and notice where clusters are. Or is on computer and how do you actually see it."

" Well we use that now electronic disease surveillance system mats and integrated throughout the region and is being rolled out statewide. That we can do a couple ways. Looking at the data that we can map that would -- even number of cases by parents that they we -- geo -- that we can track -- have -- by actor adds that we now with in -- city they're originally worse than clustering and illness but. Right now the eighties seems to be pretty well dispersed throughout city."

" Thankfully -- so far been no swine flu deaths in Wisconsin but. Many experts fear that there H one N one virus is going to come back stronger in the fall. So how are you doing anything in anticipation of that."

" What we're doing is focusing on key contact management so we can monitor her right now the level -- keep that Paul fans. Are. We're watching guidance coming out of -- need to see if a vaccine would become available we're really trying to keep it I Aaron how severe illness is who's getting sick. That that we could really. Target our strategies. Should the disease reemerged fall."

" Well right now the WHO the World Health Organization is reporting that it's going to take longer than expected to make a swine flu vaccine. And drug manufacturers are saying they're only to be able to produce enough vaccine to cover 75%. Of the world's six point eight billion people. So. Given out what does a swine flu tracker do."

" I think that when it's really important to get good data about who's getting sick and the severity of illness so that. With limited resource is you can target individuals who are most likely to have complications. You want to maximize whatever resource pass."

" In a way I'm sure this is what you've prepared your whole life for you known to be able to respond to something. How does it feel to be in the middle of it."

" Most states it's actually very overwhelming I think it's X had a somewhat surreal because he's spent. Years. Planning for things you had a well thought out plan. And then be allied that this situation does not conform the weight plants they have to be very adaptable are -- And be able to very quickly assimilate all the changes in information and guidance you feel like you're going constantly."

" Well indeed feel too like you're working like crazy on something that many Americans are starting to think plan false alarm."

" I think it's too early in the picture -- fat thumbs and I do rather overreact and that have wasted my time -- people come back later on and say you could've done more. Mark to stop all of that."

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