Title: Here and Now for Friday, July 24, 2009

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" I endeavor Becker in for robbing and it's hearing now prosecutors have now dropped to disorderly conduct charge against Harvard University professor Henry Louis gates junior. Officials in Cambridge Massachusetts called the rest of the prominent African American scholar quote regrettable and unfortunate. The Reverend Al Sharpton says the event may represent a new low in police community affairs. Police arrested gates at his home in Cambridge last week after a report of a possible break in -- and gates himself. -- trying to force opened his -- front door. Police say when they arrived on the scene in question gates his behavior was quote tumultuous. We spoke with Boston Globe reporter Tracy to an earlier today and asked her to explain what happened leading up to gates arrest."

" Said protester was returning home from a -- Japan China where he was filming a documentary heat is coming back airport. And he had put his -- down to try to open the front door and discovered it was jam. He motioned for his driver -- ticket for the airport to come over to help them. And the -- were trying to get deterrent but that would work for the professor walked around the back of the house. Entered the app store which is key turn off the line. Try to open a factor of incited them that work came back around again and the team and where again trying to get it -- and finally forced it open. The driver about the -- decided. They said goodbye and professor -- immediately. And calling the Harvard realistic management company owns the house that he leases telling them that the -- circuit and asking him to fix it. He got a -- huge -- that he sees policeman outside his door and initially he was thinking -- great it spotted it in their company. They are their you don't -- it was happening. The policemen. For an identification and asked him to step outside to -- porridge to professors declined. That's that he wanted to know what we therefore. This is where the discovered he began."

" Well who should say first to go ahead it was woman was walking -- street NCs professor gates in his driver. Two African American and jamming the front door of the house in 2000 -- on. Police get a report of an attempted break and nobody agrees that this has happened up until this point but what happens next is really what's in dispute here because. Police reports suggested officers arrived in a professor gates. Wouldn't answer their questions wouldn't come outside. Was he yelling out Clemens saying things like. You don't know who you're messing -- thing and things like that and professor gates says it very different search."

" Right candidate professor says that he went into the house to get that identification with the police he agreed to get ID. You -- into the kitchen and the policemen have followed them without being invited then. The professor pulled out at Harvard identification card as well as has Massachusetts driver's license showing the address of -- he is living and in the -- still continue to question him according to Charles Ogletree investors' lawyer. According to released. The professor initially declined to provide ID but eventually produced a Harvard ID card and -- assistant professor was yelling. This is happening on the black men in America. --"

" Internals of the tree is a Harvard colleague professor gates sees his lawyer gates himself hasn't said anything about -- And there have been allegations in the past of racial issues at Harvard."

" Yet. Those were issues related mostly to the Harvard University police department which is different in Cambridge police department. But one of the professors that I spoke with a friend of investigate his name is doctor Alan -- he was walking across Harvard Yard some years ago on his way to the office and he said he was. Asked by a couple of Harvard University police officers. Who act for identification. He could have any wish him. Apparently he later find out that they were investigating. Robbery that happened nearby and the suspect has spit his description. -- kind of version of and he would have complained in the past also about what they call -- profiling by police."

" The story's getting a lot of attention needs an international attention their newspapers in London running this story suppressed."

" No absolutely not. Professor gates and -- international figure. He's so common that it's happening Harvard based relations police relations are always. The good hot topic and when you combine the three expresses. Not surprised just blowing up like this."

" covers higher education for the Boston Globe Tracy thanks for being with us here."

" When President Obama addressed the Muslim world from Cairo a few weeks ago many people asked why Egypt while the country is a close US ally it also has an authoritarian government. What are people we spoke with at the time was like a -- in Cairo bureau chief for the New York Times. Because he's back in the states turn this simply asked him to sit down that's an open his reporter's notebook and life in Egypt and Michael we spoke with him after president Obama's address he mentioned. That his speech particularly energized young people which is huge in Egypt because. 60% of the population is under 25 that's an amazing statistic."

" Well it's extraordinary the two most important dynamics I think in the Middle East now on demographics and economics you have this huge body of young people. And they want jobs they -- life they wanna get married just like young people anywhere else. In this societies where they live let's take Cairo where I've lived for seven years. Employment is difficult education is sub par. So the challenges that they face a quite extreme and a few superimposed. Over that this rise in Islamic identity you see where things -- guard."

" So tell us about their religious makeup in in this movement toward Islamic identity a little bit more what's happening."

" And basically. Not to oversimplify it but in in the Arab world you have three basic building blocks of identity and they were be Arab as -- nationalism. And Islam. They float and for example when the agent Egypt team wins the Africa cup soccer tournament in Africa everyone is very Egyptian. At the moment I would say that predominant with a foundation block is Islam. And that means different things to different people and certainly in different countries in Egypt it means that there's an increase identification. With Islam as a corporate entity it means people or more of servant if not necessarily highest and it means that they're looking to Islamic movements. Such as the Muslim Brotherhood such as Hamas such as Hezbollah. They look to them for the future and for guidance. I think there's also more of an awareness of what's out there and sometimes that creates a tension within society in which individuals because they want both. You know they want to live like the people that they see on FaceBook or in the movies but they also are bound by a more conservative social quote. You've written interesting things about the market and people's foreheads that they have to show how -- they -- can you explain notes that mark on the -- you're talking about. Is what occurs to men when they press their head firmly on the ground during. Five daily prayers. That are required under Islam now what's interesting is Muslims all over the world for and very often more often than not do not end up. With this -- on their head or callous or whatever it is. In Egypt it's become commonplace and it's kind of a status symbol and friends of mine where there is so Bebo which is what it's called an armed with a great deal of pride. Religion in a lot of these societies has become almost an alternate career path that the classed -- societies that they grow up and offer them poor education and little opportunity to advance unless they have connections. Whereas within their faith they can be successful they can lead a life that is full of meeting which is really what anybody wants and is a -- is kind of assembled."

" I am wondering if you think that and and it's probably hard to generalize but is it close to getting to the point where the religious fervor is is are certainly has the capability to --"

" What I can tell -- is what I see in what I see right now is that religious identity is it grounding in stabilizing. Element. For many young people who have nowhere else to turn. But what it has done. Is in a way shortened the path from average life to extremism. So twenty years ago and Egypt if you -- young person who was perhaps living a more secular life. To get him across the bridge to become radical was a much further distance to travel. Then and is now in ancient Muslim Brotherhood what is Muslim Brotherhood -- it is it's really need to. It's a movement in Egypt and it's hard to explain because technically it's illegal. But it's illegal. In the open and the Muslim Brotherhood it is. Committed by its own charter. To create an Islamic state based on Sharia but under dated -- level the Muslim Brotherhood is providing charity. Work for people it's providing health care. It's helping finance schools. -- take your quick story there was an incident several years ago where the police had shot and killed the 65 year old men and small village north of Cairo. He got caught up in -- crossfire. That occurred because the government wasn't happy with the way people were voting two years later I went back to the village to ask if the government had ever visited the family. And the answer was no but the Muslim Brotherhood --"

" What's the human rights situation like there are now in terms of being able to -- to speak freely about what people might sees problems in the government."

" It 2005. There was a brief period -- Egyptian government like several governments throughout the Middle East has toyed with the idea of political reform and opening. That's been virtually completely abandoned especially in a place like Egypt and Islamic -- said Nugent we have the freedom to scream. And that's -- it's a really good way to put it people -- and criticize specific actions of the government all the time but cannot -- act and other organized. I think that's one of the reasons the government find social networks like -- Frightening because it allows people to organize and people that are organized. A lot of people and does it affect you in your report. Only to the extent that people were sometimes afraid to talk to me they're cautious about talking to me it affects me more fundamentally because. There is no expectation on the part of the government to explain itself to its people so let alone you know to a foreign reporter. It's an extremely difficult place to get access to decision makers. And then. Even more difficult once decisions -- public to get them to try to explain. Why they've done with -- during -- so to that extent it's difficult but each of gives me personally. Quite a degree of latitude and operator. You also talked about marriage and you've written about these romance weddings for low income couples can explain to us. Throughout the Arab world that the key to adulthood -- marriage it's not going off to college and moving out of your parents house it's getting married. Married as when you have your own home it's when you can have physical relations with a woman in most cases for the first time or man. It's when you have independence. And marriage is increasingly difficult to -- because of economic factors. It's not like in the west where you get married and maybe you're young couple when you live in a small apartment or smaller place and you were queuing area. You're married disposed to have an apartment it's supposed to be furnished. Supposed to be set up completely which is an extraordinarily. Difficult thing to do. For a lot of young people so what's happening is young men and young women are often not getting married now to their late 20s30s. Forties. Which. Is for very different reasons than here I mean here people may stay single to remain independent they're people wanna get married to become independent. So it's -- the forgotten these group weddings are talking about are offered by charities. That are actually need to close to the government because they recognize that this is socially destabilizing. To have a huge body of unmarried young men and women. So they have these -- weddings where they give them furniture they'll sometimes give them help getting an apartment software we're huge party for them by women. Wedding gowns went festive."

" that's like a -- in Cairo bureau chief for the New York Times when we return we'll talk about day to day life in Cairo annoys the crowded roads and how he's raising his two young boys there. This reminder you can listen to our programs streamed live on their website here and now dot org or you can download a podcast and take us with you wherever you go. Sit here and now dot org we'll be back with Michael selectmen after a quick break and later in the show Ian Hunter still rocker and seventy years old we'll be back it's hearing."

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" Welcome that we're talking with Michael slackening in Cairo bureau chief for the New York Times we've been speaking about Islamic identity among egyptians especially young people. Who Michaels tells us are increasingly turning to religion because of the poor economy and inadequate education. And Michael -- in about some of the frustrations facing people in Egypt like the noise level which uses -- like having a -- next year head for most of the day can you tell us about every game I think Kyra."

" I just wanna say that the people of Cairo should renew everyone's faith in the durability of the human -- His -- is a difficult place to live particularly if you are not one of the privileged few who can put yourself in a bubble you know. Papered with money. It's loud it's crowded the traffic is remarkable. And not getting any better. As you said he. Just of the game in some of these neighborhoods. I've got around to talk to people who say that when they leave their neighborhood their friends are always way as them widely screaming. And they say I'm not screaming and that -- scream. I was telling me this story and he was screaming. Because it's so so so. People will come out on the streets and they had televisions outside their house of with the speakers outside the house. And then there's. Call to prayer in this church bells and it's quite."

" Left you had a statistic it would have your stories that said that. There of what two million cars today in this system that's designed for only half million."

" Did I say only two million cause it's gotta feel like six million. So many cars on the street one of the realities of Egypt is it seems to me. Cars never lose the value. Never he -- half and 1970 lot it's barely moving and that's worth something for someone so it stays on the road. So the road it's filled with new cars and old cars and older cars and mechanically inept cars that actually should not be other and then there's the donkey carts. That a roll over the road in the vendors all over the road and Cairo with somehow design and with virtually no cross marks -- cross this madness. People will have to Darnell. And that to me is most frightening part of drug are more worried about. There's people -- out."

" And really what's happening to a large degree is people fighting to survive here you you've sent it -- about half the population lives on less than two dollars a day."

" You have to take this all together -- lot of -- this tremendous poverty. This gut wrenching traffic there's a government that is largely insensitive to the media needs of its people so. What is it -- I mean what you she generally are people who are very open and very very friendly to visitors but. But they're trying to survive they're trying to get through the day. So it's a real Everyman for himself attitude. That's blended or superimposed over kind of an innate I think Egyptian compassionate is there for other people but he is getting crushed by just the challenge of getting through Canada."

" also -- then there are certain things about egyptians may be it is that passion in a way that you. He mentioned a story of folks who will give you directions to get somewhere even though they know that they're the wrong direction."

" We spent today going around asking people my colleague Mona on the car and I went out asking people for directions to someplace that I knew how to get. And I'd say maybe 80% of the people gave me wrong direction. And we would go back and talk to them after and they were always embarrassed and they were kinda sheepish and they said look what. Europe a visitor in my country you asked for my help. I need to give you helped it's more ashamed to me to say I can't help you. And the Cindy you generally in the right direction but not exactly in their interaction and I figured you'd asks someone else anyway. So I think that's the kind of thing we need to understand the way we communicate I think in the west generally if so last you directions you don't know. No shame in saying I don't know."

" And why is this story of subsidized bread so symbolic too that's going on an agent."

" The government spends more on subsidies. That spends on health and education compliant. Which is kind of an extraordinary. Number if you think about it. And the reason that they do that is because social stability is essentially gain by keeping prices low enough so that people can afford. They're very very basic things that they need to get through their day and bread is one of them subsidized bread is one of us. And this is where the Everyman for himself. Spirits seem to really manifest. On these prevalence and people started. Fighting and staring each other and the story you're referring to I stood inside a bakery looking out -- And people slugging it travelers and kids -- know women wacky kids and men were elected women to get up there for this. --"

" He engineered you also personally raising her two young bullies and -- You -- wrestling hearing distance and you hope that they will understand their own country after having expense Iranians are formative years old Cairo. And you say it can be difficult and obviously need to for them to find free spirited individualistic emulates in the Muslim Middle East. However. You found someone in -- we -- telling -- it."

" You bring up the weird -- stare at. When of the foundational. -- values and Egyptian societies conformity. Everyone is expected to conform. And today by my mind too weird Alice can have a great symbol. What Americans do best which is -- it ourselves we can poke fun at very serious things and while we -- I think. It's -- an important representation of social satire which we don't see enough of in the Middle East the other very important lesson I learned which I have tried to part of my children. Was from one of the first officials and Islamic Republic of Iran. He's so older gentleman by the name he Virginia as -- who happens I believed to be other restaurant now. And -- as he told me that. The three building blocks of democracy. It's not elections. It's diversity tolerance and compromise. And you have to have diversity you have to tolerate diversity and then you have to be willing to compromise taken together. Weird -- and he redeemed as the the perfect children's guide to democracy an America that I've tried to instill in my children."

" Like reflect in Cairo bureau chief for the New York Times thanks very much for speaking it. Pleasure thank you."

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" I'm -- robbing it's hearing now forty years ago today the crew of the Apollo eleven left the surface of the moon a day after Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin became the first man to walk on the lunar surface. As we mark the anniversary we are reminded that before the Apollo eleven mission the former Soviet Union was in the lead in the space race. Soviet officials wanted there man on the moon first that the US beat -- to it the BBC's Moscow correspondent Rupert Winfield -- prepared this report."

" Well the rest of the world is watching. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin taking this first steps on the live in Moscow. That was a complete some news blackout. Old men in the Kremlin had decreed. That no Soviet citizens would be allowed to watch America's triumph. But they worry if you cynics call rate to worry about what your life they have been wanting to see them. -- come in here and battery compartment. It according to him mpeg one of them was an -- Leona Muskegon in 1969 he was the Soviet union's chief cosmonaut. He trained for three years to beat Armstrong and Aldrin to them and so how did -- feel as he watched the American landing. -- was pretty boredom and yes you know you get -- fellow. I think -- way to go and I had my fingers crossed of them he tells me I really wanted them to succeed. It was a huge event for mankind it wasn't just about America beating the Soviet Union. There are two names. That people remember around the world one is unique regarding. The second is lost so. But may be should be you'll -- that people remember."

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" Many people today forget is that until the -- landings Russia has been far hated the US in the space race. Unique and garnering had led the way in 1961. With the first manned space flight. -- in 1965. Alexio in the off to the next big step. He's the audio recording the -- taking the world's first ever walk in space."

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" never got to walk on the -- but in 1975 he commanded the first of the joint US Soviet space mission. At the time many sorts is -- PR stunt. But Alexi says the US and Russian nationals formed strong friendships across the Cold War divide. And to be stay Alexei Leo enough remains close friends with the American national Tom Stafford affiliate don't Alexei."

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" And that was former Soviet cosmonaut alleged alien off ending a report from the BBC's Moscow correspondent Rupert Winfield -- on the fortieth anniversary of the first man on the moon. Well the moon isn't on the list that the Grand Canyon and the Great Barrier Reef are among the spectacular natural landmark is competing to be included in the new seven wonders of nature. The Amazon rainforest in the Dead Sea Africa's Mount Kilimanjaro and Ecuador's Galapagos Islands are among the finalists. The -- is being conducted by the -- new seven wonders led by Swiss adventurer Bernard Weber you can vote online and there's a link to that on our website. Around 100 million people voted in this election up to seven manmade wonders in 2007 at the coliseum and rose the Great Wall of China and the Taj Mahal in India were among the winners and we'll be back after the break. --"

" Welcome back what can Washington learn from Massachusetts on health care reform. Here in Massachusetts from 97%. Of residents are insured as a result of a mandatory health insurance law that passed in 2006. But costs have also gone up by four point seven billion dollars goes -- that concern healthcare inflation. And now the state may still be forced to make cuts to health care to balance its budget. Paul Ginsburg is president of the Center for Studying Health System Change and he joins us with a look at some lessons learned in Massachusetts welcome to the show -- Could be here. When Massachusetts for his past health care reform the state said that it would help pay for the program in power by feeding Alex noticed a free care pool -- the money. Paid to hospitals to treat the uninsured. And the national from President Obama has said that health care reform will create a savings because they will be reductions and how much is spent on Medicare and Medicaid. But the Congressional Budget Office is doing original listen saying health care reform may actually end up increasing costs so what's your take thousands."

" It's actually. There's a real parallels between where we are the federal level now as far as cost containment and where Massachusetts wise and enacting their reform. Except Massachusetts was very explicit that they were not going to address cost of this time they're gonna get back so that later. The rhetoric federal level has been. We have to address costs the same time as we expand coverage."

" Now we should say in Massachusetts. Is now looking at ways to deal with the cost issue and recently a commission in Massachusetts did. Come up waited -- a proposal about implementing a global payment system. Completely different way really -- restructuring and related doctors and hospitals are paid what your take on --"

" Maine Massachusetts. A master's commission has gotten way out in front Thomas and -- A Massachusetts could well be that pioneer."

" And we should explain that -- the global payment system is it's it's it's essentially budgeting a certain amount for a group of patients and then dividing the cost loan provider is is there right."

" is precisely so -- providers would be taking some responsibility. For what it takes -- delivery of the important care. -- defined population."

" It's kind of standing at the planet Massachusetts calls for doctors receiving -- a flat fee if they don't spend. The money all of that flat fee they get to keep the rest of it for themselves. So is their chance and that the doctors would just try to keep down costs and what does it do to improve health care."

" Any system that pays other than fee for service. Its -- always important to be measuring the quality of care. What I would say is that you know when we think of a -- There -- risks we might be taking. As we use global payment. Think combats the risks of the status quo that we know than under fee for service payments. You're always going to be paying too much for care too many services will be delivered. And this is going we just won't be able to afford. Could care for every one I think we're likely to have are consequences to our economy. I think inevitably. Many people will get the short shrift of any system which has no constraints -- constant fact images encouragement to do more. I'm not everyone's going to be able to get care under that system Jimenez and nominally venture."

" Now in Massachusetts. Health care reform is supposed to mean that visits to the emergency room would go down because people with insurance -- not have to rely on the emergency rooms for routine medical care. But says emergency room visits actually grew by 7%. So what does that mean do you think for national health care reform."

" I think there -- two things that are behind the increase in emergency amuse and Massachusetts. One is the fact that senate primary care physicians are in very short supply so some of the newly insured people -- non -- a physician. Are having difficulty finding a physician. But I think the more important reason is that. When people learn how can get reimbursed. When they go to the emergency room they'll use in more than -- to pay the entire thing out of your pocket."

" But if we get away from the fee for service system. In power by using this global payment system. Were relying on the primary care doctors that are in very short supply it's not a network."

" Well you know I think fares will inevitably have to be more delegation. Either primary care physicians to -- one problem now is it. Let's say primary care physician has now I'm diabetic patients. And this patient could really benefit from some education in of these days the primary care physician has to do it. By themselves because of -- hiring nurse educator or some announced they can't get paid for. Under our system where there's a global budget it actually opens the door. For additional delegation by primary care physicians. Because of the ability to get paid for the services that others are providing."

" Get affected the nation is also facing -- and this this recession. Is this maybe is time that should give people Paz about taking up that issue that is going to be so cost."

" I think there is enough. Potential to slow the rate of increase of health care costs. That -- need not be any. Military budgets terribly risky thing to do. As long as there's some crew cost containment that comes along with the reform."

" India thinks they're right now other things on the table the federal level there really do have that potential to slow the rate of healthcare costs and I think."

" Now I don't think there are -- Here's the really promising approaches aren't ready to be implemented now. So I think the key thing is to set in motion a process. Of experimentation. And piloting and giving the secretary of health and human services authority to go forward when things are working. I think this is what the federal government could do to actually. Really gets true cost containment in motion and even if they won't produce short term savings and even Massachusetts. The global payment system won't be implemented for five years has a lot of work to do it. You know it's better to get started now than to say how this'll take five years we have to look elsewhere to solve our problem."

" When you look at what tipped it in Massachusetts since 2006 in the state yes it's health insurance. What are some of the challenges in the mistakes. That can be taken to a national level to say oh owner and do that as we know that doesn't work and an inconvenience in canyon mine."

" I don't know that the federal government would be a successful. If it's simply postponed addressing costs as Massachusetts might be. Because the federal government may never have the intense pressure in Massachusetts feels now to address its cost problems."

" their president of the Center for Studying Health System Change he's been talking with us about some of the parallels between health care reform in Massachusetts and Washington. Paul thanks so much for being with us -- very welcome."

" Tomorrow I'm hearing now we're good health insurer to stand on reforming healthcare. Also speak with author -- Wahlberg about her new novel a short history of women. You're listening to hearing them."

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