Title: Here and Now for Friday, August 7, 2009

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" Here now is a production of WBUR Boston in association with the BBC world service and PRI another young it's here and now of the cars or may be more fuel efficient than in past years but they are already pulling out of Washington. As the Senate follows the house to August recess. Yesterday senators approved the nomination Sonia Sotomayor for the US Supreme Court. Also passed a measure to provide another two billion dollars to the cash for clunkers program but still on the to do list the health care bill. For a little roundup scale static the congressional correspondent for the Christian Science Monitor joins us in -- you're the one you told us about his traditional sighting of exiting cars. So who still is working."

" Did it it really helped Kerry is. Toppled lines for every member of the house and -- over this break especially for the Senate because all of the work has been done on the house panel. They're just waiting to see what happens in the last committee which is Senate Finance Committee. And in particular can six -- that committee treat Democrats and three Republicans who have. Probably had a cone of silence with their deliberations for a month now."

" a -- a Mac but Max Baucus a Montana Kent Conrad North Dakota Jeff Bingaman of any New Mexico. Mike -- Wyoming these is on the Republican side Chuck Grassley of Iowa Olympia Snowe Maine."

" Very good on the list news. And some of those names especially on the Republican side you've seen before I think that Kate Snow has helped broker. Just about anything bipartisan that's lived to the last ten years she was -- Key player in ratcheting back the bush tax cuts too much to the dismay of Republicans. And you can keep player in slowing down some of these is it raining in fiscal profanity Obama planned. As a key Republicans. Both parents well to the dismay of Democrats. And what we think now is a theory and shifting. -- drama going on. Where different committee is to reaching -- to -- life outside the community. To take it was -- report that -- round -- And the -- of -- being solicited by the community to -- drum up support with these bipartisan negotiations. And people outside to -- most notably senator Rockefeller from West Virginia couple things to -- Revving up his supporters. -- especially on the issue of child health. Something like 150 crew and a letter yesterday saying we're gonna be afraid to children a going to be hurt but what concerns that the bipartisan committee. So it's quite interesting the unity and practical or beyond to influence what is going on inside but still quickly black --"

" Well and there's a drama going on outside as you -- know in town halls across the country as lawmakers try to meet with their constituents we've seen. Angry protests. Of course now the report said. Some of these protests may have attempt late a political action memo written by conservative activists on the -- Connecticut. He defends himself and Alan Colmes radio program this week saying. He doesn't make people angry they already are angry but his memo urges people to cut off lawmakers before they can even speak to go to these town hall meetings and almost try to stop the exchange of information."

" Submit the question is how does this this anger that we're seeing at these meetings resonating in in Washington -- senators head to their constituents. I'm there'd be a backlash as we keep seeing these images now of people cutting off their lawmakers and -- not letting them half a conversation even if there is genuine anger out there."

" Absolutely right I think it it is. This is an issue that Democrats we're all little for even before some of these images. Became daily occurrences. Look at doing is -- members to create a different kind of town hall and electronic town hall for example. Where you cannot create the image that. Is so scary to politicians the only thing worse an appropriate lock could know with the handcuffs and bright lights. Is to be standing there with an out of control crowd looking like Dolan has tried. And in that sense anything it will get them out of that kind occasionally in the tickled to conclude. What it's not good for is basic democracy. These few weeks and so important for members. To be in contact with the constituents actually it would -- have to remain consistent."

" Let's -- to at a congressional correspondent for the Christian Science Monitor. And we will see what happens over the coming weeks as lawmakers to go home. And meet with their constituency there as you say online or in town hall meetings Kyl thanks as always. The reinvention convention that's the title of the National Association of Black Journalists annual meeting going on Florida this week. And re invention is needed just like mainstream media African American publications and media outlets are struggling. Fans of ebony and jet to the oldest black magazines are urging friends not to cancel their subscriptions but despite more than two million subscribers. Owner Johnson publications has had to mortgage its historic Chicago building. Minority broadcasters have asked the Treasury Secretary for what amounts to a temporary bail out. And here in Massachusetts the longtime African American newspaper the bay state banner closed until it received a bridge loan from the city of Boston. During the time it missed one of the biggest race related stories of the year of the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis gates junior. So where are we on African American Media start with -- right he senior writer for the -- dot com a web seem focused on black politics and culture. Which is published by the Washington Post and by the way it editor in chief is Henry Louis gates. -- what's the meaning TU and refresh reinvent and reclaim that's the slogan of the convention."

" Well I don't know I can't speak for them -- but I can say that sound that you. Black journalists like maybe journalists from our -- right now where everyone is distance overwhelmingly excited about the future. Well we have jobs -- B relic that that's both inside and outside of the black plus. So this is you know first probably yeah the last few years. Any BJ convention which is it's a big deal -- Thousands of journalists from all over the country come. And indeed the overwhelming conversation always has always been the last few -- where we go. -- mark what are we gonna do you how we how do we have jobs."

" While you talk about some of the reasons the economy in the the same reasons that impact. Mainstream. Publications. But we understand that one difference may be according to at least one analysis the black publications. Rely more on the auto industry. And that multi cultural budgets at places like the auto industry are being slashed."

" Yeah I mean I think usually there's only so big apply for a -- Advertising to minorities puree it right whether it's black but you know in the -- has been -- It just ships around and publishes it working in in in in black politicians talk about having compete now with. But the fact that people think somebody is in if you -- spinster epic advertising dollars and suspended on Latinos."

" Well because after growing population. Well and you said that there are really two conversations to be had. About the minority media we resentment magazines ebony jet owned by Johnson publications. But what's the other part."

" Well I mean there's so there's these national publications that have that have been around for years and it did everyone knows and then there's the local. There's the local newspapers. That have an equally fiber history and debt but have been troubled for force some time now and and I actually believe they haven't even more vital role in terms of the actual. It's interesting journalism has to offer to the world they are sorts publications that he had their position to talk about it. That don't rise to the daily newspaper don't rise to the daily newscast and certainly don't make national news but are deeply relevant to the lives of black community you know. That I think then it. Those publications had been in real trouble for real hard time. There's hundreds of them still around the country but many of them operate as you know a single publisher -- single person working -- the publisher the editor of the reporter. And -- useful. In their publications and smaller and smaller and increasingly not. Not offered any value which is ashamed because they can't be it have a long history. Providing great I don't know what we do about --"

" Well and as -- there's an argument as to whether or not it should be filled by government -- and whether or not. Some of these publications should be held in the way that Boston has reached out it's a word that they and the city is making to the bay state banner. Because the argument is well if this means so much the African American community than they should support it but what we just heard you say is. Part of the reason that it doesn't mean so much is that they don't hear news about their communities. In other places."

" I think it's pretty demonstrable that there -- CDs whole. That's particularly when you talk about local news and local information. Relative to black neighborhoods just doesn't make it into the daily newspaper. Are more more frequently. Now how -- you so that does that government pay for this -- there's a growing there is a growing conversations. Beyond black and in the press in general that the government should bail out the news. It's a conversation that a year ago I would have thought would have been in the absurdity here in alum I think people are making credible argument slide I don't know where I come down -- but. It's a reflection of how desperate we are by the solutions."

" And these -- the local newspapers and news about the magazine's describe the rules. That magazines such as ebony a monthly and jet our weekly play any African American community."

" Well that's a good question I mean they used to be this place where it was the only place in the national scale. You could do it every seeing from cultured society where if you want it to be an aspiration on middle class black person you could turn to this and and identify with its way or. You know. To critics if you wanted to ignore all of the problems outside your door come you turned this for that purpose but their cultural touchdown in the one of the things on -- 35 folks my -- and on under now. Quite often near some of these brands as outdated and old -- and crotchety. But you know this thing which in order to have -- and everybody here that's gonna brand that has stepped everybody's license some way."

" And then I guess the question is you know how much can witness dollar -- help the magazines going forward wanting someone else in the conversation. Christopher Smith is a professor of communications at the University of Southern California. He joins us from USC's studios there. And professor Smith you've been hearing from -- right -- to dot com. Kaiser on 35. And -- can ask your age but ask your thoughts. I guess that the question re getting at is the relevance. Of the national African American magazines and newspapers two separate questions."

" Well thank you for having me and I am around Keyser he's just a little bit okay. And I think the a question of relevance for -- on national magazines ebony and jet. Really comes down to the increasing. Class fragmentation. Of the black community. And they're fewer and fewer stories and ideas and trends. That the entire African American community. Rallies around you know vocal. As the Henry Louis gates event and its aftermath indicate. The black community is now Britain. Productively so I think with a lot of different perspectives. On just what the black community it is."

" SEC productively risen and are we even talking to a lot of young African Americans who say kind of -- disable my mother read. And they near Tampa I don't I get my information online mean is a part of what's happening. Debt. For -- African Americans and on a monolith but secondly. There's there's generational differences just like there -- communities."

" Yes I think the generational differences are very real as kind mentioned I think having and shed. Really emerged in -- polls. World War II era. When black Americans coming out of World War II would sheriff's beginning. To feel a little bit. That they could be part of the mainstream and ebony and Jarrett spoke to that. Mainstreaming -- operational aspect but now you have a whole post affirmative action generation. Who now don't really. Feel the need to pay homage to those touched on the same way the previous generations did."

" communications professor Christopher Smith who teaches at the University of Southern California also with -- right senior writer for the web -- the -- dot com. A quick break and when we come back we'll ask them both. But what they see in the future for African American Media. Penalty in future later today -- foudy and a film critic weigh in on Julie and Julia. Back in morning. -- now."

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" Welcome back we're talking about the challenges facing minority owned and minority focused media and particularly. African American Media. Witness our communications professor Christopher Smith from the University of Southern California and cut right senior writer for the African American focused web -- the root dot com. And -- we've heard from professor Smith that some of the older legacy magazines such as ebony and jet. All the -- touched her some readers. Is that because of editorial choices or less interest in reading things that are exclusively African American. Or. Isn't that young people in particular just when you're reading online."

" Took some victory years you know these -- literally billion dollar question right but different degree this is when everybody used in media that's. And even politics -- trying to figure out. How to market what they've got to say it to this new generation of people all racist particularly racial America. And so to some degree we don't know bright but I think that it's clear that. There are folks are not as interested in -- singles silo understanding is that the so by that I mean I think. If you're going to have publications that is about ready -- that is about the black experience America. -- need to approach that -- less of a black -- and so what does that look like again I don't know but I think that that people are are less. Interested in having a single identity a single perspectives. A single experience yet folks are comfortable with multiple identities multiple lines."

" We're not Willis in other words they they get to read Tallahassee coats blog. Which is very African American centric but then they can flip around need to read another blog at the same sitting."

" Or even within -- it you know it is written from the perspective. Eighty young black man to lived in an urban area to listen to hip -- and poetry and politics right and that's fit into the claimed to be black stuff. Its stake their claims to be his experience which cuts across many say."

" Professor Smith do you -- though in that I can just hear. Someone's mother somewhere saying it. Yes but if you forget about that about that the magazines that paved the way for you and and remind you of your history but also. The issues that are important in the now -- it'll be your parent."

" Well I think that. -- is a good point I don't think that this repository of history will be lost I think that for example ebony -- has just been wonderful project where. Dave deposited every single issue of see every photograph every cover. And that's tremendously valuable property and that history will live on in have a tremendous legacy. I think going back to -- point. -- Black owned media will monetize. The demand. For that history system they'd steal late ownership claim to it. That's still a big question because. The beauty of the web is also its curse for big media and that it's it drives. Did -- the cost of bringing goods to market count absentee."

" I finally professor Smith retired about magazines more now that. -- Isn't he felt that neighborhood print newspapers really served necessary purpose because there's a hole and it comes to coverage of the African American community and traditional news services."

" Well on some level yes I'd I think it's a matter of not that. News pertaining to black neighborhoods in black communities is being left out. I think it's a matter of perspective. For example went from prison Obama went to. On his Africa trip and we spoke in NAACP. Again people found -- remarkable that he could communicate certain messages to those audiences. That perhaps a white diplomat or white states person could not as I think it's about is growing. The number. And a string. Of of of black means partition or wherever they may be so that they can bring that perspective into the broader mix."

" And you also saying that it's time to -- move. These journalists out of the neighborhood newspapers and into the main news and I guess this goes back to the question. Do you think that those newspapers. And magazines are still relevant or should -- aimed for integrating into the mainstream."

" However when the relevant question comes into play I think there's no automatic reflex to gain -- you have to earn your relevance every day when your -- percent. I find it quite amazing that there's an incredible growth story to -- whole. When it comes to hyper local online only entities. Community bloggers that blog about their housing project -- but I mean they're doing since we put hybrid radio used to be 2030 years ago. And I think that that's a powerful story. That is gradually. Going to emerge as one that we we -- will be following even more than will be following within these old entities are relevant."

" But that happens in every community kind of religion -- and speak out but I against -- saying that the neighborhood newspapers will be relevant. Until the news of the neighborhood is covered in mainstream."

" Right I think actually agree deployed I would make is that substantiate. Dated gain a thorough coverage. Communities that. Are not middle class communities that are majority people of color are things that just do not get as much consistent. Meaningful coverage in the daily newspaper anymore and indeed click black newspapers -- black newspapers could still battle they're not. In many cases and outselling it they cut it some but if they don't someone shut."

" That's kind of right he senior writer for the dot com a web -- focused on black politics and culture and a former. -- journalist yourself. Do you subscribe would you subscribe to he read."

" I read everything online yeah."

" Inning on Monday up and went to customers Smith a professor of communications at the University of Southern California has been speaking to us from. USC's studios there."

" I still. Quite honestly and an ebony and jet subscriber purely from legacy perspective for nostalgia. For the stars say I'm an old school kind of guy interestingly enough I also subscribe to a New York based. Past racial lifestyle magazine called uptown. That's interesting because I exceed them kind of doing -- kind of black town and country type thing. And that's what I mean when I see the black media. Consumer market kind of fragmenting. Into different sure plays that might create some opportunities for people to look into it."

" anyone you know an eighteen year old a fifteen year old African American might not interest in net today to know how to well capitalized fifty year old. A professor Smith thanks so much. You're welcome to my pleasure of course thanks Ken -- the root dot com. So we come back -- any of them to review after the news here --"

" Her husband has been on the front pages for his private mission to North Korea. But you're state Hillary Clinton is also on the road making her way to Africa on the seven nation tour in South Africa today she met with former president Nelson Mandela. The BBC -- officially joins us from Johannesburg and -- today secretary of state Clinton also called on south Africa's current government. To pressure reform in neighboring Zimbabwe should the chaos in Zimbabwe. Is creating a crisis for South Africa now a reminder in Zimbabwe. President Robert Mugabe is supposed to be sharing power with his rival Morgan -- Ryan. So what does the crisis there -- look like from South Africa. "

" The clear message coming from Hillary Clinton is that she doesn't believe that this power sharing government in Zimbabwe is working. Though there -- many. And the South African government is one of them say that it's made significant strides over the last few months this time last year there was rampant. Hyper inflation and -- were -- became worthless in Zimbabwe. Now this power sharing government in place they've got rid. Of the Zimbabwe dollar you now have foreign currencies being used in that helped stabilize things economically. I think what what Hillary Clinton is really pushing for is saying that this power sharing government doesn't yet convinced them it's actually about sharing how they haven't seen. Those political reforms they haven't seen the freedoms being reintroduced back and dissidents about places Societe. Which convinced the United States that it's time to start considering development assistance to consider removing the targeted sanctions still in place on senior figures about."

" But what does South Africa do you mentioned the inflation in Zimbabwe at once hit 500 1000000000% and as a result there -- three million refugees from Zimbabwe in South Africa so they haven't a real interest in all of this but do they really hold any cards in doing anything."

" Well some effort is the biggest economy Africa's so it is an important friend to Zimbabwe taboo Mbeki of course the previous president it had a fairly long standing policy here of not. Openly pushing for Robyn McGowan date to leave office I guess they do have a lot of -- to have a lot of influence I think -- said. Acutely aware though of of the complex dynamics south Africa's run by the African National Congress to considers itself to be. -- liberation. Movement and they see. Zanu PF in Zimbabwe in much -- lights they see comparisons between themselves so that's in it in some way explains why they've been so reluctant in the constant and still what why they do remain quite reluctant to criticize government -- BO to cool for the Zanu PF to step to one side."

" His party well overall relations between the US and South Africa Hillary Clinton's counterpart in South Africa. Respondents were reporters' questions and she denied that there have been a chill between the two countries during the Bush Administration. But said that Clinton might help improve relations so obviously improvement is needed."

" off to the open affections existed between president Mandela and that President Clinton Bill Clinton. It was inevitable but whatever fall it was going to be a chill of some sort it was a fairly open secret the Bush Administration would not happy with some of the policy decisions which the Mbeki administration -- took. On issues such as HIV and -- denying -- link between HIV and accept the hope is that -- a new government in place here in South African Jacob -- as and you government the United States Barack Obama Hillary Clinton sixty -- the hope here is certainly that things might warm -- a -- we might begin to approach the sort of level of friendship we -- when it was all about -- veteran Clinton the first time around. Well speaking of Nelson Mandela he turned nine yuan into line what. Is his role in South Africa today when -- aside from public life he is an old man he's had a a tough life of course it remains hugely important not just as a as a symbolic figure every every time he says some in public it's. Picked upon and at what looks at it fat what he really thinks about what's going on -- in South Africa but he tries to avoid. Getting overly involved I think people here love him and you know aural oral really hoping that he can continue. For as long as possible because you know Nelson Mandela is not just a great man to South Africa he's become an icon around the world and."

" A delicate question and one I'm sure with no answer but may be some speculation. Is there a sense that he will be able to be on the world stage and."

" You know for a long time when he's not really on the -- states now people go and visit him in his home page in Johannesburg. He doesn't. Make speeches anymore but at the moment he seems to be it would set to continue with what is quite a busy routine and meeting people."

" But he is a man of 91 says he's friend the BBC's Jenna -- speaking to us from transparent. Gerri thank you so much thanks very much. And it -- program note next week an administrator the first woman to swim the English Channel. In American history of -- and early next -- the history of swimming quite fascinating. That's next week stay here back in thirty seconds here and now."

" Let's hear from you we received many of your thoughts after our segment on bullying. We spoke with her -- locker of Springfield Massachusetts her eleven year old son Carl committed suicide. After relentless pulling at his school. We hear from a mother and Hickory, North Carolina who didn't want her name used but sent her sympathy and that's caution she writes. Our daughter attempted suicide and thankfully failed we -- been harassed and mercifully to texting MySpace and email and -- knew. We've now eliminated the cellphone altogether and watch the screen anytime she's online this might seem radical but we are fighting for our child's life. It between your child and secret technology. We also spoke in that segment with doctor Roberts say -- of Boston Medical Center who says pediatricians and schools have to teach kids that. Bullies are the ones with the top -- get them help. Well Kathy -- Athens Ohio writes that's not easy she says when my children tried to point out -- of others they were told they shouldn't tell and other kids. And Jack Ferguson a San Antonio Texas. Disagreed with the thinking that police need help he writes it is a crime and can only be effectively controlled through criminal charges. Anything less will continue to resultant suffering. Well on yesterday's show we spoke about the upcoming summit in Washington on distracted driving. At which the advocacy group the center for auto safety says they'll push for a ban on texting while driving. But Howard pleasing -- of Yukon Oklahoma had a different idea. Howard you say we should use the GPS systems on cellphones to do what."

" simply cut the yourself -- the PDA cut it off when that GPS system compete she's going into more than. 345 miles an hour."

" And efficacy by your email you any air force department to air force. So I do you think that this technology really can. He made -- to do this."

" out that the simple mathematics. And as soon as the GPS computes that certain number that tells the ipodder the PDA to go to stand by."

" Well okay this raised some questions and perhaps it's not because that would mean of course people might be driving and using a cellphone. But what if there in the passenger seat or would've -- a train."

" The messages could be stored in as soon as the train stops the cell -- to come back up you get all the messages you -- just -- twenty minutes ago."

" point. Is that you don't wanna see any regulations or any laws or any finger pointing."

" of any -- to put owning a piece of paper that's gonna stop someone. From doing exactly what they want to -- we still write tickets for reading stop signs."

" Well Harry Whittington who knows security will be put in the pot thanks so much. Finally we reported recently on fallen troops coming home their caskets passing through a small town in Britain or. Transfer their loved ones at Dover Air Force Base here in Delaware. Many -- city had to pull over to the side of the road well. That he temple of Nashville Tennessee also had written a song for fallen troops there and play a little here and direct you to his website and ours here in town --"

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" Well for weeks the film and food world have been buzzing about Julie and Julia. Director Nora and -- new movie in which legendary actress Meryl Streep. In bodies food icon to the child. And rising star Amy Adams plays Julie Powell. An almost thirty somethings who decides to make all the recipes in mastering the art of French cooking and -- blog about it. In hopes of adding some usual -- to leave it to her own life. In this scene Julie tells her husband about the impact Julia child's -- had on her and her family and I."

" Eight. Father's boss came to dinner and it was a really big deal and my mother may improve putting them. But it wasn't just before he knew this Julius. Plugging U. And it was like she was there that -- was there. In the room. On our side like some. Great but being. Good fairy. And everything's going to be all right."

" The film has both Julie and Julia and so for review we need both time and -- to critics on. The Boston Globe film critic Ty -- as he was always great to be your -- And here now resident chef -- guns Kathy good to see you as well straight to see him and the start asking you both start with you Kathy just overall your reaction -- film."

" Tourism purify -- Meryl Streep blew me away I loved it but down the best supporting actor or actress is but there. I think if you will get into. All right anti as a film -- I think as a film it works wonderfully at that as you know it's divided into two parts and you alternate between Julia Child in 1950s that's. And it Julie Powell in modern day queens. And they -- these scenes -- Meryl Streep just miraculous and Stanley Tucci as her husband the warmth. The jewel in just their being together and their relationship in the Jewish he takes in cooking. Is just so powerful."

" People let's continue to remind ourselves these two stories that are in the film. One is based on Julie Powell's book about cooking -- through Judy tells classic master the art of French cooking. Julie Powell's book is Julie and Julia and then there's also Julia child's book my life in France. Which he co -- with her grand nephew Alex food town and it tells the real life story of how she was married to Paul Child. As you said anti diplomat played by Stanley Tucci and how early answers it loose ends and need to find something to occupy your time."

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" I don't know how. If you're in the room. I'm so -- I downloaded it now is truly you are you. He can you chorus and his child and the for the -- who cooking school of this books TV shows just. Her impact on the world food."

" Think gets across their impact as a human her cadence Meryl Streep just embodies her she had. Something in her shoes to different this incredible high utility child was sixteen and mean -- gigantic woman and her impact on the food world. Continues. To be enormous she let people understand that there was more to -- the pot -- and hamburgers she broke. Barriers for women but for all Americans in terms of what was acceptable to try and their kitchens that French food west and this exotic. Off the you know table kind of thing that."

" We could really start eating. And cooking it and that it wasn't difficult even -- we've been hearing from vegetarians who are appalled at how into the it would you know fling carcasses around. Well film critic -- says Julie and Julia ranks up there with but that's feast and like water for chocolate and two other wonderful food these movies we're gonna have more with time and -- applicants in just one minute. Here it."

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" That of course is Meryl Streep playing Julia Child in the new film Julie and Julia. We've been speaking with Boston Globe film critic Ty -- and here now residents have -- guns about the film which tells of Julia child's discovery of her love of cooking and how she put together the book mastering the art of French cooking with Simone Beck and he said -- But it's also the story of Julie Powell played by Amy Adams who blogs about her attempt to recreate the recipes from the book now -- guns. Sometimes. She successful. Sometimes not let's listen."

" I'm sure you all remember because it was only a few days ago that I haven't knocked down over my aspect and without to transform myself into better human being. And I was stressing that we all hoped he -- moms. Which is roast chicken stuffed chicken livers and cream cheese. Fell on the floor and stuff and fell into a big gooey -- Yeah long story short and another -- who."

" Worse -- last. You try. Supersize your head and mountain like so good we've watched. -- halftime you can listen it's ugly when you spend hours shopping for a meal. Beautifully preparing it and something goes wrong. Yeah I would really would be ruined I've overcoat things I've undercooked things I've over salted things I mean we're human being. But the food in this movie. It's so beautiful to look at the -- did a fabulous job I mean we see chocolate cakes and poached eggs and artichoke with holidays. Do not make the mistake that I did I went to this movie without having dinner and let me tell you popcorn doesn't cut it here looking at food this exco is there."

" There's a scene with Julie's husband point Christmas and just literally sticks -- in chocolate cake just because it's so good looking and everybody in the audience which is they could be an enemy and Amy Adams talked about street. What a surprise you but he's you know that the characters -- certainly -- body. But it -- Amy Adams. -- Europe Jennifer I'm not an -- tussle her work past and I think she's here well you know she's. You know rising actress in both independent films and then you know Disney's unison and chanted let's when she broke through and -- with -- ironically that it acts in in the same room at the same frame here. But I think she has the tougher job in that she has to portray a realistic modern woman. Who is sometimes not very appealing and sometimes the worst of the -- goes a little far -- and I think they. Consensus that sort of common sense on the levee is at the scenes with Streep are just absolutely good line and you kind of have to sit through the ones that -- to get added to those. Don't think that's necessarily true I think they're they complement each other well I think what street does is really remarkable night. I don't think she gives us the real Julia Child I think what she does she takes the contours of that icon that caricature that we now and and -- out and flesh it out into. And real human character."

" Well she performs was probably an injury child's most famous moments from the television to the French champ. As Amy Adams is truly watch is on television. So let's let's listen to street as to lead us."

" When you -- anything. You've just got to. Current convictions. Actually it's -- loose sort math like that. Go very well. Which -- and I needed. To who shouldn't have. But she always put it to do that. -- little in the kitchen and just see that's in front of millions of people. Act. And we."

" We've reprise tear our congress a recent conversation with Julia child and in people in the Boston -- she's very accessible you know when people got to meet her and talk to her. One thing that was always notable about her is that she was incredibly humble and she was incredibly gracious and nice -- in real life Fink. About Julie Powell. Cooking to her broken blogging about."

" We actually know that much there is very quick scene in the film where. After Julie -- blog really hits and all these reporters want to interview her. Our reporter culture at home and said. Have you heard Julia Child hates your blot and there was never a confrontation in the scene just alludes to some discomfort for Julie Powell but it's as far as I know we never really learn. What she really thought of."

" Ten pounds which the film had gone deeper and that is sort of harnesses this hero worship and an interesting way and that Julie character -- an interest in action and at the one moment when they -- have to the film almost come together and just sort of brush against each other and drop some interesting sports and movies getting -- at that point. And we should be gone into the race."

" Well anti. You save Meryl -- sort of takes the contours of the real Julia child and and watercolors. And in this film. Uses oil paints it you don't pay a little bit still is that the way to know. -- you do you still only know her really by watching the old you know the reruns of the French death. Because this is whats generations going on are going to think is Julia --"

" Oxley when I think it's gonna happen I took my daughter's twelve and fourteen to see this in a big Merrill street -- at this. The sense that she's a huge start to vent and you men age groups which is really unusual but they came out of it one -- cookbook. And my wife was I you know we don't have the cookbook mean and Michigan get I think that cookbook and Julie and -- the book about the blog reading the blog is gonna sell well I think the cookbook is quite."

" now so like cat I had Ellen and again I have a funny story with at a horse show last weekend there was the woman sitting in a golf cart. With the thick volume of mastering the art different cooking the original Bible -- of their reading it paid by tonight cracked up and I said. Good -- didn't she goes I'm going to see from Phoenix we can really wanted to read the book before I went. I think a -- that buddy up to lobster -- did. So. -- has a very tough job Amy has a tough job they're both up against giants. The actress of -- time and a legendary historical figure. How things you know secretary from queens write a book about. Re doing someone's life it's a stretch and in -- I thought nor have front it was really interesting merging the two stories because."

" I don't think it would have been enough on -- absolutely."

" Absolutely -- when interest -- the met the movie is that it is a movie about two women publishing books."

" And somehow it makes it I don't interest at a fascinating and they have really good marriages which isn't really -- usual thing movies particularly summer movie this is actually get a really good -- because guys come off looking great in this one -- favorite lines it's they were at a celebration Paul Child Stanley -- holds up his mind. And makes a toast to his wife Julia Child. "

" You of the father to my friends in the breath in my life. I love you don't --"

" And just France higher compliment -- bread and butter marred the ingredients that. Each other so much that romance. It's touched by tearing up the few times and now this will last question you. Both said you think that this movie is get people buying the book again mastering the art of French cooking. But we also -- isn't -- non to to a time that's passed. Used -- and may be. Whatever that was written -- book you don't you Google it you'll dig as much because we know and asking -- certain. All the heart and health questions -- you can have every once and that. He used to and moderation and look at that character where you're looking at Merrill Streep for your remembering Julie child through the clips was happy one. I got attorney that good food a lot to do it. That's here -- citizenship can be and often and speaking in Boston Globe film critic Khyber we needed both of them through you need them to do. I can't keeping them. He put up."

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