Title: Here and Now for Wednesday, September 16, 2009

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" Edu and I'm running young it's here and now Americans are reacting to a former president's statement on race -- gonna have more on that -- but first. The current president is heading to the University of Maryland College Park tomorrow. To try to bring the spotlight back to health care and bring his core supporters young people back as well. Today the long awaited health care proposal from Max Baucus is Senate Finance Committee was officially released without any Republican committee member supporting him. And like the other bills floating around congress it requires all Americans to buy insurance and that mandate. Is sending its going to affect the young people Obama hopes to move tomorrow. Americans under thirty make up a sizable amount of the country's uninsured. People who either can't afford insurance or who don't want it because they think they don't need it. Sheila Murray is national political correspondent for the Washington Post in -- you buy that ironically. This group of young adults has been silent on the issue of health care reform. Even though they're such a critical component and were such big backers of candidate Obama so why are they so important."

" really important because their participation. Is central to the whole idea. Health care reform they have to get into these insurance pools in order to. Lower the cost of insurance for older sicker people. Now they're kind of effectively be subsidizing their parents and one of the reasons that costs are so out of control right now is because. The younger healthier just healthier people in general that they don't buy insurance -- by two little insurance. So the insurance industry where the government through Medicare. And Medicaid are settled with these you know older poorer or sicker people many of these you know three letters under sixty."

" Well and his group of uninsured has been dubbed the young invincible because they think they aren't it's almost young people do and they don't need as much. Health care. But -- if this is ironic because men do stand to benefit explain lining kids for instance -- dropped from parents' policies."

" Well they're dropped from parents' policies and oftentimes kids will have. Conditions for instance sports injuries and high school."

" You know -- it just doesn't get better and then and -- 2425. A couple of years at a Pallet stone have a job yet -- you know and employers that doesn't provide coverage to them."

" And they need knee surgery well that's."

" Tens of thousands of dollars at -- pocket they don't have coverage."

" Or they may not get coverage because they have preexisting conditions."

" Exactly and apparent a lot of the cheaper policies the -- right conditions like that right out of a coverage I talked to one woman in new York and I yesterday who. -- the cancer survivor was diagnosed three months before she graduated from college and was struck by your father's insurance the -- she left school. And has been struggling on the open market for four -- five years now. And -- huge premiums. This issue of the New York where insurers are required to cover preexisting conditions that she pays these huge premiums for very little coverage. And does those of the -- Stories that you hear all over the country people all different ages."

" Well most of the new proposals would also require insurance agencies to cover people with preexisting conditions."

" So that would benefit young people and senator baucus is. As expected also offering a bare bones policy that would be cheaper for young people. But also let them you know abide by the mandate that they would have to buy something. And so we understand that this would be just for catastrophic. Care. But we're wondering -- the findings. An early to after the baucus plan called for 750 to 950 dollar fine for people who didn't buy health insurance. -- is still cheaper than the cheapest health plan that's being offered by need a couple hundred dollars so. Do you -- and they really can have an incentive to buy insurance if the findings cheaper."

" Well you know -- and that is that huge question. A lot depends on how it answered right now it looks like this young invincible planet they're calling it which would cover catastrophic costs but also. Some preventative care that sort of care and the deal and that the cost may be around a hundred dollars a month. So at those prices it would still be -- six more so that's why at this event tomorrow College Park and going forward the president. Needs to speak directly to this group of people and analysts I'm not only and going door to door to convert people to support health care generally but. Also to make their own investment and that's. News system and participate means they are really the linchpin. The whole formula eventually."

" Sheila Murray is national political correspondent for the Washington Post Sheila thank you. -- Yesterday we asked the question is at least some of the recent rude public behavior also racist. A chorus of voices has said yes. Yesterday the house led by black Democrats voted along party lines to rebuke congressman Joe Wilson for shouting you lie at the president. Maureen download wrote in her -- in New York Times column that when she heard that phrase she heard it as. You lie boy. Reminding us of going congressman Geoff Davis said of then candidate Obama that boy's finger does need to be on the nuclear button. Of course there are Americans with legitimate criticisms of Obama and Republican Party chair Michael Steele said today. That President Carter is flat out wrong that criticism is based on racism. But death threats against Obama have increased 400%. Over past precedence. And now former president Jimmy Carter has weighed in."

" An overwhelming portion. Of the intensely. Demonstrated animosity toward president Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man."

" It's been a week in civility to needed to everything from living in a Twitter page to celebrity meltdowns. But the former president has put race front and center so let's start there will hey good. Is Washington Post style section reporter will a personal reflection first year also African American you report -- a range of issues but. Was your reaction when you heard the President Carter has said."

" It was wow. Many many many African Americans are fearful that. So much has grown and they hit I think there's still a -- it was. Long -- and about time."

" Once and a lot of cable TV last night after Curtis statement Republicans like Mark Williams of the tea party the anti tax anti health care reform movement. Admitted. That there is a fringe that this thinking applies to. But he says it's just different yet this is the same person who spit out in a moment of peak on CNN awhile back that Obama was an Indonesian Muslim. So what kinds of things that African Americans have been hearing that seem to them like a steady drumbeat."

" Peers are doing that. Obama does not get the benefit of the doubt realizing that maybe he's spending offers only a month."

" at the anger is out of proportion to his time in office and his actions. And a reported 50% of Republicans according -- because -- don't think Obama was born here it translates and a plaque or sometimes too you know he's not one of us. Is that also seen as you know being another language for race."

" Well yeah. I think that who who can not believe it. I understand it or whomever won it it happens and expert but is that they always look under a rock. These bizarre. You rumors that they think the facts."

" Well we want to know about race and incivility. With an excuse -- do that but meanwhile. Also in the last week there's been threats to cause bodily harm with a tennis ball Kanye West's unappreciated shout at the MTV video awards. What are people telling you about that."

" We live in a different speeds now. The -- And the record companies movie studios had their artists under contract. Yeah they were told be anger it. Don't do anything to him being here you were record label for some reason all of that now. Mostly has them -- aside."

" Neither studies professor at Toby Miller he's at the University of California. Focus more on the town hall meetings and he says that organizations encouraging bad behavior represents something different."

" He Mexican corn and think in the past year with the economic meltdown we maybe there's a feeling that everything has. All of the people that -- for myself and my family and I consider anything. Just filling out there that things have gotten our opinions."

" How is watched by Black America."

" With both fear and him were read with the killing them. That it's -- Overwhelmingly won many many -- mean spirited people. Maybe black saw that as an expression of that commitment that has not yet died."

" We think happens now you covered Obama on the campaign you say. You're impressed by how nimble he was on the subject of race now a former president -- has placed it right on the table exactly where the White House didn't want it."

" I wouldn't expect that more members of his staff we know. The given some type of free rein to address. The the -- this -- black folk talk about it all the time white America does not. Have to talk about it and that. Not talk about it."

" Well and do you think that Black America talks too much about it and Rush Limbaugh says you know the answer everything is race and he's made that. When his clarion calls."

" No I think when you've covered something up I think it become the fact that we're. So worse they have it -- an address there's been no matter improve upon them. They haven't had time you'll nobody yet saying all of America is racist I think people. I think that there are pockets. He extreme. Racial insensitivity. -- think we have to hide it office in the land and demand who's holding met office is being talked about -- being here the and fashionable ladies and I think there's been doing a month black. That it should stop."

" Will he -- Washington Post style section reporter well thanks so much for speaking rooms. Well and as we keep repeating there are of course critics of President Obama with legitimate questions about saying health care. But today conservative leaders are saying that -- being called racist in the past for their criticism of the largely African American activist group acorn. And this week devastating undercover video at acorn centers in four cities. Showed workers encouraging people to skirt the line for instance run prostitution rings. Conservatives point to that as validation that they are not racist in their accusations -- Christmas. Is a professor of communication at the University of Southern California. Professor Smith personally your thoughts on president Carter's statement."

" I think that if I remember of the Obama administration. I would be to deal with a little bit of trepidation about it because now. It does put the onus on used to kind of speak about it and it would be good if they did. And appreciation. For former president Carter's candor. I've still for a long time that the conversation about race needs to have been primarily among white Americans."

" South Carolina Joe Wilson's son and wife have both amounts it is not a racist bone in his body. But there's a perception that happens winter university political science professor Scott -- addressed that he emailed us. Whether he intended it or not his outburst Wilson's outburst. It's a familiar narrative it's like when Georgia congressman Lynn Westmoreland called Obama a pretty during the campaign."

" Is patently disrespectful. Never been done before -- in statement becomes connected. With previous historical patterns. Having their adulthood demean and and vandalized. The effect is similar to so many other overtly racist act to follow it up on wheels suggestion. Of how the anxiety produced by the economic crisis. It's it's so important it is. And also our position in the world I think a lot of -- the kind of alarm about Obama it's not so much. Purely restate. I think it's -- people haven't untethered anxiety about where America is going into there are some racial elements to it and I don't think I don't wanna discount -- Jimmy Carter says but I think."

" The book of the larger picture is that we seem to be slipping. As the superpower and I think that that's what's -- keep people very -- there."

" Christmas professor of communication at the University of Southern California combat we're gonna have more with the professor and -- questioned. How big a portion of the population. Is this and he is talking about if blowing it to -- Second -- here now."

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" Welcome back we're talking about civility and race with University of Southern California communication professor Chris Smith. Now that former president Jimmy Carter has put race front and center. And professor west I'm Rachel -- on her program on MSNBC went to a history of rightwing fringe hate groups with her against Jonathan Alter of Newsweek. And they went from the -- cheers to by the Conklin and Joe McCarthy put up that these vitriolic hate groups have always been with. And -- fringe. Maybe 65000. People on the mall this past week and many of them civil the -- not the two million. That organizer conservative Glenn Beck claims there were so. -- being blown out of proportion."

" No absolutely. Not deserve very dangerous climate we're in right now will we change to. War is one of which in Afghanistan. If -- tenuous at best. We just celebrated. You know commemorated I should say the anniversary of nine elevenths there are people out there in the world still seek to do the United States armed. It is a dangerous environment to discredit the president like."

" That's thinking the right said in the run up to the war in Iraq about the half a million people who protest did. That war."

" Well let's put this where it took comparatively it's a very long time and no wind. Alienated. The president of this country know -- no one actually depicted him as a fascist picture. Look Dick -- President Bush is well known but I think the point is. It's reaching another level of dehumanization. And we as President Obama."

" Well and as some have said over health care reform and moves in the economy that was started under Bush Administration so it doesn't as as will -- just -- It doesn't seem to match doesn't seem to fit. Jonathan Alter from Newsweek also pointed out last night that during some of these times that we mentioned and times of rightwing. Fringe groups it was a Republican. That led the charge against them a Republican led the charge against McCarthy for instance. Does it have to be Republicans today."

" I think it should be any right minded person. Republican Democrat independent. I mean let's put it this is well the thing to sort significant about president Carter's statements. Is he is trying to show how -- basic but now in every day. These type of racial racist sentiments are. We need to ourselves that this serviced by purely identifying. These anti progressive sentiment. On the far right ranged. Decent debates are part of all of us that's -- so profound about racial ideology. It is a normal part of every -- experience. In my daily life as a black American. I have to to battle. Racial our ways of understanding the world within myself so but it look at the middle way in which makes sense of the world that same we we use nationality. Sexuality. Gender it a whole range of other. Prism through which we need to make the world intelligible races this salient aspect of what we see in the world will we see somewhat. We we register that beetle to big difference. And the way in which we register that -- to pick different. According to other. Salient social factors that's how -- operates in the world sometimes with a good sometimes it's in different sometimes it's for the bad. And so I think with Jimmy Carter's doing that is profoundly productive work is to demonstrate. That really operates. Who performs it doesn't operate -- estranged we like to think that we got this situation under control because -- can readily identify the ranged. We can talk about how small their numbers actually are. But in fact. This is more than being shocking phenomenon. Didn't we think it is."

" Well. They were two issues today in table one was race the other civility they cross obviously. In some of these stories that PM 49 who heads the civility institute Johns Hopkins University. Told USA today that he thinks that all of these outbursts combined. Are great his reaction was you know great now the notion of civility may be back on the national agenda. Do you agree and race would -- of civility."

" Well I'm a communications professor and I would just suggest that were that are profoundly new moment in our cultural history where it is. Harder and harder to find the examples from which -- teach. The millennial generation the need for civility it's why it's a civic virtue it's very difficult to impress upon the millennial generation. What's civility is all about what so many. Pop cultural factors so many -- technology factors indicate to -- they. Adding cloaked it within them all whole new way of understanding. How were to engage with one another I -- think stick to his credit. I think Barack Obama. Has been remarkably. Adept at providing a consistent in sustained. Approach. To civility."

" Well and we might we suggest you also -- Beyonce. Who graciously invited Taylor Swift to take her dancing his moment in the spotlight to make up for the one that that -- US to run to --"

" and that was wonderful for her to do I think it's one thing about Beyonce is her perfect family and from marketing apparatus. They are kind of old school. In the waited they they want the united come across as America's sweetheart Americus princess America's. You raise your right entry it. You know Emily Post and their political job of I will say though one last point. I think it's big it is it's dangerous to to to be to stop 222 quickly. Make an equivalent -- between what went on in the pop world. Over the weekend and what Joe Wilson did. Column on the -- congress because history is not going to recall. Serena Williams outburst to any significant degree history's not going to be called. Beyonce are showing good graces to Taylor Swift it's absolutely trivial. To the pattern -- course of history -- chill Wilson represented. It's far more pretend it is potentially far more significant. By way of how we move forward from here as a country trying to which -- your main tools and it's meet the problems."

" will be in the history books Chris Smith professor of communication at the University of Southern California thank you so much professor. Thank you. Okay tomorrow I'm here now and take a look at the fight in science. Over who's responsible for science illiteracy in the US is -- the scientist himself that's tomorrow. Still ahead they have green Fisher College. Will be back after the latest here now. Afghan election officials say that President Hamid Karzai. Has 54%. Of the presidential vote but that's a preliminary count. And the UN is still examining thousands of potentially fraudulent ballots from last month's election. If any and Karzai gets less than 50% of the vote there'll be a runoff election and with election results still up in the air there could be a dangerous political deadlock. Neutral voices are talking of the need for compromise and flexibility. Even the government of national unity. But some opposition supporters have warned of street protests if President Karzai is declared the winner. Added to an edgy mood in cobble as the BBC's South Asia correspondent Chris Morris found."

" I'm on the edge of Kabul standing in front of broken masonry in the remains of -- shattered windows. Newer Aziz is describing the nights earlier this month when his brother and his brother's wife and child who killed by a rocket presumably find by the Taliban. Which blew a hole in their bedroom wall as they swept. The first six months of this year Kabul felt pretty safe. But during this extended election season that being suicide bombs and these occasional rockets. -- says everyone feels a little uneasy when he covered us at this in the desert the situation comedy is about him just on that night there was reluctance. One landed here to -- their security is not good. And ideas or on my left it is always been war. I'd just want all of us to stop fighting. Well -- authorities say security has been reviewed and tightened -- in these uncertain times. You can buy most things here in Kabul's markets if you know way to look. And that includes guns we spoke to one trader who didn't want his voice recorded so his words spoken by someone else. Prices have definitely gone out with setting a little more weapons these -- but we're not sure exactly who's buying them why. Some of its private security companies and local people have been buying handguns for their protection. It will simply -- heavy weapons like rocket propelled grenades people stocking up."

" running -- he had only been out. You must you -- giant. This is the voice called tonight comet a powerful former warlord from -- Afghanistan. And a prominent supporter of the main challenges in the presidential election doctor Abdullah. -- speak she's accusing the Interior Minister -- I mark -- handing out weapons to government supporters. He also says people have the right to take to the streets in protest. If they feel the election is being stolen from them. His mom has reportedly threatened to break the team that anyone who demonstrates. But his spokesman samurai bash Hillary is more measured."

" Peaceful demonstration. Peaceful rallies or of the rights of the people -- will not let threats to harm the demonstrators. But those. Who are trying to. Do kind of for riots under the name of demonstration attack public properties looted shops and bring in security to get people off of Afghanistan. These elements or -- actions are completely who have it and do not have the opportunity to do that."

" So the interior ministry says it's ready to respond to any threat. But I've just been speaking to one very senior Afghan political figure who describes Kabul. As a pile of dry wood waiting for a match. He says there are twenty criminal gangs in the city who would take advantage of political unrest to create chaos. What they're -- of Kabul University is less gloomy but still consent."

" Persecuted he didn't exist even -- Davidson's. And specifically these days because there have been the last and -- divisions between the -- it's been cynical -- candidates. This situation is a good thing divided. -- nobody attendance but incidents and there's a -- populism of Kabul and it has our did you problem. And they have escaped to build by -- thirty lot of that it did. With the government and those who are not authentic and -- incumbent out as it."

" There's plenty of building was going running Kabul right now but there's also an estimated half a million unemployed young man. So the fear is less of Iranian style political protest. And more of public disorder. In the city with seething resentment just beneath the surface. It's another reason why the complaints process in this election investigating claims of fraud needs to be seen to be as -- as possible. To avoid giving people who might seek to exploit public protest. The chance to strike. Never report from the BBC's Chris morning."

" We'll just ahead how we should ecology being students are increasingly seeing Barry. Thirty seconds here now. A recent survey by the Princeton Review found that two thirds of students applying to college. Seeing how green a school is plays a big part in whether Google there. Colleges are responding Arizona State at -- has the first of its kind in the country school of sustainability. -- Dickinson College in Carlisle Pennsylvania students collect fryer oil in music to fuel campus cards. But the tiny College of the Atlantic which operates on mount desert island up in Maine and has less than 500 students. Was founded in 1969 on the premise that green is good. It ranks fifth on Sierra magazine's third annual list of the most eagle enlightened US universities. And is one of Princeton review's greenest colleges of 30. All of its students all of them major in human ecology the study of our relationship with the -- we joined now by COA's president David Hale's. -- some other things you do that you might not see and other college campuses."

" We've had zero waste graduation ceremonies which is a slight exaggeration because I believe that we actually ended up with about four and a half pounds of total waste is still all of our electricity comes from renewable energy. Almost 40% of our heating comes from renewable energy primarily wood pellets. And our hope is to make that a 100% by 2050 -- we have of wind generator on our farm which produces the electricity that's necessary to have to operates. That -- We try to pay attention. -- what we do -- in part because it's the right thing to do. But it's also part of table we believe there's a sustainable financial future."

" Is it cheaper for you to be ecological and savvy."

" Sure it is and it is not only cheaper and now. It will be much cheaper by the time we get out to 20/20 five or 2030. I'll say that any college or university that's not a 100% dependent on renewable energy by 2034 its electricity will have tuition going through the ceiling. -- to listen. Our tuition room and board just around 40000 a year. It's not an expensive at all but. Where one of less than 300 colleges in the country that meets 98%. Of our students federally certified need about two thirds of our students receive. Financial assistance from the college while they're here. And so -- the actual cost to a student is much less than that. The 40000 reflects pretty much what it is our experience to provide the education that they overseas."

" Well the kids also eat food this locally grown infect college as a farm in that kids can. Work on that he try to use biodegradable cleaning chemicals in office supplies that are environmentally. -- responsible but -- also have an attitude and he made a comment about how the New York Times noted that. I think you have light switches that turn themselves off. But that's sort of redundant."

" Well we went through. They came in thinking they would recommend would be automatic light switches that would turn all. On when somebody was present. What they found here is that that would be a needless expense because the students themselves turn the lights off. So there's it just from that to the recycling to the degree to which students walk where they kill there food preferences all of those things. Tends to be consistent. With the idea that humans have they responsibility for the world around them and that they can make it troops."

" All your students study human ecology yet no academic departments know faculty ranks somewhat saying. That's it this is the sort of sixties retro. You know hippies gathering on an island off of Maine of course it works well for you this can't be duplicated."

" Well that will be a very interesting thing to see a lot of colleges and universities have taken a look at. The kinds of things that we do and even in the midst of a very big university. You'll find that they haven't honors college. Which approaches things much more the way we do. Then that the way the general undergraduate education is taught at that same university."

" And and we noted Arizona State at Tempe has a new school of sustainability so you're saying schools are are moving towards this at least having programs but how words. -- commuter school our community college where. Kids you know by a larger are also to really east trying to get an education while working -- a lot of their -- And some would think that the green aspect of being aware of sustainability. Is selection read that they can't afford their busy doing other things and in these schools are. In a busy just trying to get as many kids do is they can't how can they do some of the things that you do."

" I think that things we often see is luxuries for the rich are in fact necessities for the poor and in the war hold of colleges and universities. We don't believe that just because we're small and do not have a massive endowment that that gives us a free pass on acting. Responsibly. And what we've found as we've done this is that it is part and parcel of the education that the students themselves receive and that big green thing to do and the smart thing to do economically. Are more and more exactly the same thing."

" I'm thinking too. These kids are gonna be pretty well positioned for the demand for jobs in green arena."

" About two thirds of our graduates within two years they're they're commencement will be in the either professional school. Or in graduate school all. About 20% will go on to be scientists. It may be another 1718%. Find themselves in education about that same number. And public service and a growing number are finding themselves as screen on troop maneuvers in the business world."

" Stephen -- he's -- president of the come into the Atlantic it's right number five on Sierra magazine's third annual list of the most eco enlightened US universities. Potato just wondering do you ever get the occasion comes up the freshman who just comes to its complaints -- I can't take it anymore I want to I'm trying to think what I want -- It's -- got to get to a McDonald's and get me off the healing. That."

" It's not only do we get students to do that faculty and -- we are all week we tried to take. Our mission seriously but not take ourselves. All that seriously and -- we we really try to have fun as we go. This there's nothing. Essentially. A horribly pure than now are sanctimonious about what we're trying to do. We really want to understand. The relationship between humans and the world surround -- that cultural world the world of the imagination. And we think that the role of higher education is not just to help students understand. The world in which they live -- But to be able to shake the world in which still live the rest of their lives."

" David Hale's again of the College of the Atlantic up in Maine thanks so much."

" It's my pleasure thank you very much."

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" Welcome back here in now. Take The Breakfast Club and a dash of revenge of the nerds and infuse it with the energy of High School Musical talent of fame. And you have one of the most talked about new TV shows Cali. And."

" Show wound and really didn't mean glow and now leaves. Yeah. In the non us and it shouldn't."

" The show on -- follows the travails of high school Spanish teacher -- made by stage actor Matthew Morrison. Who yearns for former glory when he was in a Greek club when he back in the early ninety's the only problem other teachers competing for resources. Are not thrilled with the idea of the new Greek club. You do -- you depressing little group of kids. What I did with my wealthy elderly mother. You so nice it."

" How coach that was the cheerleading coach. But fans disagree the pilot -- in the spring then went on hiatus over the summer. Giving time for the -- to grow and fans to download the shows songs some of the most popular downloads on iTunes. Brad felt -- is malicious creators he joins us from Los Angeles Brad welcome and his congratulations. Thank you very much that's a tone first for the people haven't heard your partners -- Ian Brandon and Ryan Murphy who created the very dark ethics series mid attack. -- is not dark it's more up with people go through some sort of twisted the lens what does that lens won't -- what was the tone you're going for."

" Younis and your connection to him at The Breakfast Club and there is there's a lot of you know I grew up with John Hughes and there is certain certain John Hughes inspiration to than that. There is darkness there there are moments of great pain. Which is sort of nice was about but we always wanted to be hope that the end you know some veteran come along -- leaves you feeling -- said."

" Well let's hope he would agree club is a lot of viewers are gonna identify with that idea of the magic of high school singing group. I had his high school player teacher mister Cohen and my students have formed a religion around him. -- but this is not required and it's not a drama club what is this -- it's hard to."

" Describe that they they perform songs as opposed to singing them than not just dancing and after seeing in this sort of dancing around singing with a lot of sequence usually. But there's that level of earnestness and commitment and all these kids into the show acquires. Then it also very compelling."

" Now the Spanish teacher turned glee club leader. -- hold tryouts and let's listen to some of the voices."

" Adding -- Mercedes Jones announcing an. And -- yeah. Yeah."

" Yeah timing his -- apparently not be singing on my own from the seminal probably classic links. Fantastic that's here. One and me."

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" So bread you're not going for the Simon Cowell American Idol lets make fun of people because they can't saying."

" No quite the opposite you know one thing when sort of rule we have you know -- people get. Made fun of a lot for a lot of things. When someone -- your dancing and there is no irony there -- just going forward in terms of the Juliet and so you know we needed to be with a can really -- off. And you could really get into an ever seen dances in the -- guy and that. Largest immense talents because they can really sing and loan that was Rachel played -- Michelle."

" Largest voice coach Joe Spencer's spare time making videos on MySpace she won her her talent competition I think she says -- three months. -- it's her dance company. That's right. It some of the -- breaking some sort of fourth wall of irony."

" As soon as they start performing yes the key is that you know it's hard to really dislike or look down on celebrities that talented. No matter how strange there otherwise but also the same time if someone so talented and and they become -- because there are some kind of charming and lovely outside of being counted. Then it's kind of boring and as an X rated drama."

" Another familiar storyline and it haven't in my choir is that will degree club director has recruit jocks to fill out group and years in the school quarterback. -- by -- singing in the locker room shower."

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" kids so talented and a lot of show is about sort of a high school caste system you got to Jack there you nerds drama geeks cheerleaders. We did you pull from high school here in the Boston area."

" I want to pretty small high school but still there was caste system there and and that athletic guys -- on the top and and sort of trickle down from there but really who are you in that camp system you know have to admit that -- was throwing it in dumpsters every day and ashamed to say it."

" we should say this is something that the jocks were doing this just you know I like to -- with -- let me take -- go to first."

" Then you tell -- a dumpster you didn't really happen to be literally buckets mr. indirectly from a life. And we just we just ranked where on there feel terrible about it that. But I you know -- program to be a little wiser and and realize there -- some again in the -- therapy and showing it on TV now and showing -- how wrong we were."

" Other caste systems for instance between schools will take his glee club to another school it's they didn't have their show choir performed. And they are astonishing makes -- Amy Winehouse is wanna go to rehab with --"

" I look at these sort of as a sports show. And that millions and go team and they're going up and compete against the teams including two children you know can they make -- that means there's really something."

" I would describe the hotel which is that he and he can in his rehab was in New York Yankees were that. Evil empire you know they spend more than anyone else and they recruit from other schools and they cheat they lie in the find everywhere they possibly can and so -- they're the team everybody wants to -- and so it's like Ken are a little. Ragtag bunch of misfits can they beat them."

" Well of course they can and less and less than cheerleading coach stops than we deceptive note this Sylvester. And seized the pre -- nemesis teeters on and it did take the spotlight off her Cheerios and she called them. This is the great character actress Jane Lynch here are a few of her moments from the first two cents."

" Think this is hard drive being water -- that's our. Really."

" Fox Sports Net last year because they needed they -- it's pretty cheerleaders performance. Your resentment. -- That last exchange between Jane Lynch as the cheerleading coach and team amazed who plays an obsessive compulsive nutritionist him put all the teachers having feuds over funding."

" Well the reality is NN Los Angeles the arts funding -- through space and now arts funding for public schools rather silly considering in the city is built on art and artistic expression. That shows really about the arts and the power of the arts and -- the arts can change people's lives. You know we being political I guess a little bit not intentionally to political but it's it's definitely trying to say like look these kids deserve something where is that money going -- all the things -- go to market and put it arts programs."

" Well you did an interview with film school students and you said the most important thing they had to do was find their own voice. Where do you hear your voice in Greek and we were saying. It's not fame it's too nasty and cynical in parts for the you know how likely is it."

" I think it's this idea that never have ridiculous things get never had dark things get there's always a little chance to -- gonna work out as long as you're expressing yourself. In all the characters they're all there are struggling with that when they do get heard so rewarding and so exciting who -- Hollywood was cynical."

" And perfect segue for journeys don't stop believing. It's a song that helps transform from for them. I was apparently co creator and -- Murphy's idea that you likened it --"

" I was worried about it but I was wrong and every time I am an interview have to keep saying this is my hand and insisted that. Yeah instead it was a collective group to on the nose he surprised the benefits -- history."

" Red belt circling of the creators of lead which isn't the Fox Network on Wednesday night I would be sitting there waiting Brad thanks so much. Thank you yes. You know as a production WBUR Boston in association with the BBC world service and BI. Please join us again here and now."

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