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Whose Words These Are (9): Sarah Kay

Title: Whose Words These Are (9): Sarah Kay

Published: Wed, 7 Oct 2009

Description: In anticipation of the 2009 Massachusetts Poetry Festival, the question has been: where does poetry come from these days? And where is it going? Before she could write, spoken word poet Sarah Kay began dictating poems to her mother. Today, at 21, Sarah has become a successful, artful practitioner of spoken word. Sarah’s [...]

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" I'm Christopher -- with a performance poet Sara Kate the youngest most lyrical singing it's literally most enchanting answered the question we've been asking. Where does -- come from these days Amber's going to. Our series is whose words these are -- open source and American conversation with global attitude. From the Watson institute at Brown University. Terror case quote verses to heard Japanese mother before she could write her Brooklyn Neil's father. -- his own poems feeder school lunch every day. She started haunting the -- portrait of the New York when she was fourteen and then she bloomed on HBO's Def poetry jam under way to college. She's a senior -- a national champion and television favorite for her kinder gentler variation on wrapped. Informed by a roommate. William Carlos Williams and Billy Collins her time in life and her candidacy. She -- with us that she delivered her celebrated hands -- to watch --"

" Terry K you're a well known performance put before you graduated from college. What was that got you started was a DePaul a poet and composer what --"

" And I've been reading poetry since before I can actually physically right I would dictate to my mother. And make her write my poems town for -- it's like three so -- she's been in my life forever but. Performance pardon didn't enter into my life until I was a freshman in high school and there is that it was. I decided that I needed to learn how to get over my crippling stage try it. And that -- control of poetry and and the way that I discovered it was because. Have if how many Taylor Molly who's there are known spoken my opponent."

" Was your immediate value of the -- who is she asking you know I think you know I think it wasn't my idea I think I just hated that. That I had king gave brilliant that I needed to be recorded for -- and and and at a now it is. I -- manage its -- someone to take down -- dictation. So -- normally listen and fit over a wonderful sweetie -- wrote it down yes she did it and and the other thing match that had to pick a big part in mind poetry were life. He is from the -- of from kindergarten through fourth grade I I took my lunch to school. And every single day in my -- mother are my father would write me. A little pollen and put in moraine plant -- I literally had a poem. In my -- every day from kindergarten to for it and neither one of them really considers themselves. -- at all it's not what you can do but for some reason -- just added the business. Something that they were going to England through their own words not yet -- and they they ranged from sometimes they Iran does and it sort of Dr. Seuss UA. Sometimes they -- more. Shel Silverstein. Imagine -- pieces and sometimes they didn't you know and as there are other serious health. Ask the pseudonym what do they do. What do you realize our hands. My father is a photographer and my family business news. Me and camera equipment and supplies to any -- And I am not and that keeps my old high school from falling into the -- ever. Unofficially she's sort of the woman behind. Behind the way that gets everything and put school the United Nations international school in Manhattan."

" So please yourself by now as a college senior where do you see yourself in the great. Chain and poetry. Starting -- spoken word but I'm thinking of back to the original spoken word guys homer and."

" I love poetry and love. Spoken word because there's an immediacy. That you don't get from the page. There's on a connection to not only from those of the worst themselves to the delivery. And issuing the out -- tell you exactly what parts. They want to hear -- in which ways they want media and we shouldn't I think his his particularly. How meaningful. Time. And I'm I'm sort of you know. Mumbling along trying to figure out where I fit into. -- grand scheme of things."

" Reggie gives is -- living somewhere between page and Fitch does everything you speech. -- insistence on paper tube."

" No actually that's had concussion and there are definitely pieces that I write that as far as I'm concerned are meant to live on the page. And then there are other pieces that I right. That are very specifically meant to be performed. And some of those never get into written down some of them do just because I wanna make sure I don't forget -- let -- number of palms of my that I I don't think are written down anyway."

" Tiny New York Britney give us a taste if you will of the poetry but any sort that. And inspires you that you take to revision and share. There's a column called. -- called."

" Epitaph. By. Mary -- And I found it because when I was -- I -- my mother is is tackle is. And mine are as Japanese descent she's American and my father is -- proclaims. And and because of that I grew up in there and mixed racial households and my father's generation my mother and has elapsed episcopalian. And that and I was raised somewhere in between all that my mother hopes kind of a Buddhist. But I did go to temple when I was a kid and I it was departments I had. And then my temple was fairly alternative and of pretty funky for a little east village -- and they used to read it. Poetry within the service in addition to hand the traditional pieces and and my rap I read this -- and I remembered from the very young age and it just it and meant a lot to me and has continued to stand me. The spirit so this is epitaph and then in the line. When I die. Give what's left of me away to children an old man that we attack. And if you need to cry cry fear brother locking the street beside you. -- when you need me put your arms around anyone and give them what you need to get to me. I want to Levy something something better than words or sounds. Look for me and the people I've known our loved. And if you cannot give me a way at least slightly lifting your eyes and not on your mind. You can love mean most piloting hands touched hands by letting bodies tax bodies from the letting go of children that -- to peace treaty. Love doesn't die people do so when all that's left of me is love quite simply keep -- away."

" And."

" The community groups schools quote -- Yeah. That's funny because. I don't. I don't really associate it with anything particularly religious. Even though I had occasion in a religious settings. But it's just."

" I really enjoy the idea of giving yourself away and I think that that has a lot to do -- my attraction to spoken word there's this wonderful. -- Wonderful a theory about life. Live theater which is that when television was first came about and and moving picture first came about. People thought well they're goes live theater right now known ever asked to leave their living room we can just watch entertainment. And no one's ever gonna goes he left here again but it didn't die out and a lot of people. You know -- to Iowa how come we're still keeping pets how come we still go to see live theater when it's a much more convenient to Saddam. I I heard somewhere that it has to do -- fact that when you see an actor onstage performing. You're aware of the fact that actor you know aware somewhere in the back of your head. You're aware that actor is going to die at some point they -- more on. And so what they are doing on stage is giving you a part of their lives that they'll never get back again. The moment that has happened in the lives Peter. Is. Very fleeting and you get -- experience that we fat person and I think Coca nor does the same thing almost more so because not only are you. Experiencing. This person is that moment in their life but they're telling you. You know their feelings and -- articulated their poetry. Sergey do you put yourself in the spoken word community you're in the larger. Eternal. Mr. poetry. I think you get different answers from every poet you ask my question to him. I think a lot of what spoke of her poetry doesn't have an identity crisis about exits and that. Greater round of -- and I think a lot of politics who have nothing to do this popular community often don't know what to do. Which stock cupboard country and whether or not. Eight count and what antibiotics. Poetry at all in the -- addicts vulgar and crude -- corners. Ordered lawfully and you know just one branch of the tree. I think. There's an impulse to write poetry or there's an impulse to. Make art art and -- to be creative and people who share that impulse. To share some sort of community whether or not me. Embrace it or have anything to do with each other. But I think that that exists. And some people like to use include it sounds closer with people who expressed some of the same way so popular pilots often times like to cling to each other. And and and more literary pull it off in times like to cling to each other but I think that. You've got those people on the same room they share a very specific impulse that they can relate to him. What makes it's spoken word as opposed to -- poem written or spoken. A really talented spoken word poet I believe. Performs a pollen that cannot be read half the paper. Meaning that something in the way that they perform it. Is crucial. To that piece. Whether it's what they're doing their body whether it's taking their voice. Whether it's the way they interact with audience but something about that peace would not be able to be captured. On page alone. Like one. For example that television show HBO's Def poetry -- which was probably the most famous mainstream access to spoken word poetry and there is a wonderful column. Planning reuse who. Ran and upon. The -- is is about me poetry slam at school for deaf. Children. And half the poem. Is done with sign language. In accompaniment with the words of a -- And if you are right that opponent down you would miss out on half of what's going on whereas when you see that performed live and trying to view. The -- is magnify and is really power well. And to me a really good spoken word poet writes every piece of spoke my poetry. That same regardless of whether -- sign language is actually being involved you create a piece -- spoken word poetry to be performed. Not to be red --"

" It's a range of content that goes has -- reporter. We'll put it the other -- other things you could not express and a spoken word performance."

" I don't think so I think that's one of the amazing things got the -- farm is that if you are clever if you are smart if you're talented. In this thing and expressing yourself. You can figure out a way to get across anything you want in this farm. And you're given a whole lot of tools that's one of the advantages to spoke to our country should get a lot more tools -- someone who's only reading -- page. Because you have to work themselves you have your body you have your voice. Yet sometimes microphone even to pilot gavel live audience that she can interact with our actions not to interact with. There's so much more going on there and so many more tools on your palate."

" But -- could you pastoral poem."

" Spoken word absolutely acting can and you have to you would have to work to. Figure out the most effective way to do that but that. That."

" Would be an amazing spoke to appease the such assertions were reported could you do poem about confusion about -- about China's Tibet dissidents real dependent."

" I think so I think all."

" I have -- poetry is back but I think a lot of it is done courtly and I think they're very few people who do it. The incredibly well on the people who do to do it incredibly well aren't able to. Find vast topics. To speak about the problem is that the majority of the voices in the open like me are all talking about the same things. And therefore it drowns out the quiet voices that speak about what -- those same things. Well. Spoken word poetry. -- for the most part at least in the US and that the more modern government action movement came out of urban areas. Came out a need for. I mean. Minority. Minority in the -- most. Broad sense of the word to -- minority voices to be able to be heard there -- a lot of people who felt like they were not being able to express themselves. And -- spoken word poetry was. In a way for them to get to his voice is heard and felt. I think. There's a lot of anger that comes out and spoken word poetry there's a lot of political influence there's a lot of that there's generally a left leaning. -- There's not a whole bunch of Republicans spoken word -- and I would love to see if kind of took. Come into the community. You know racial motivations come up a lot of time. Gender sexual. You know that I guess that you the same could be said of -- art form but I think specifically and spoken word -- is the tendency to. Can get on a soapbox and listen to this kind of your own voice. And I think that the people who are able to bring variety to that are the ones that are really giving an art form it's it's do you."

" What connection do you make. -- connection to use Eric -- make with. Ancient history say before. 1990."

" I teach spoken word poetry to. And number. Different age groups and the hardest. One to -- his high school students because the hate anything that they have to learn in the classroom and his clinical and that's something that's not exciting and having -- they don't feel like they discovered on their own and one of the things that I try to tell them is that spoken word. Has been. Around cents. You know since human beings could string sentences together and we've had -- the doors. Minstrel -- that that was spoken word you know it's it's got this new fund jazzy. He pops into it nowadays but it certainly is not a new. Are excellent pay any means a lot of my favorite poetry is. Written by poets who had a lot --"

" Before 1970 yeah."

" Buyer yet exactly. But we're -- American birds liquid and or the Bard himself -- do you make those connections. Absolutely and I and I think. That greatest artists in general not just McClellan just poetry -- artists are able to steal from every night. -- and there's a wonderful thing which is that in mediocre. Artists borrow great artists steal. And I felt stealing includes from. Leaders from. Poets from writers and everywhere and even today there are. Whitman references in hip hop -- You know we we haven't lost. We haven't ignored -- lost that passed."

" Do some humor hey now that I challenged -- I -- the challenge of spoken word homes being supposed to be performed -- not for the pig -- and I have to live up to it how -- This is upon that I wrote this past summer. -- and it's called astronaut."

" I see them. Them and in sees me. And soon cease com ban d.s that -- and John C. Gut Preston. And -- plants me. And gut that's -- so I -- bandied. Then I can see. If flag gets ahead and the -- you mood to. Make up. And coal users tune. And or I can name. And and three star."

" And that way though -- It's been sold for. The astronaut. Will not be at work today. He is called in sick. He is turned off his cellphone. His laptop his paid shared his alarm clock. There's a fat yellow cap -- sleep on his couch arena against the windows and not even the hint of coffee in the kitchen and -- Everyone is an activity. The engineers on the fifteenth floor have stopped working on their particle machine the anti gravity room is leaking and even the -- with classes -- only here to clean up the trash is nervous fumbles the back -- a banana -- on a paper cup. Nobody noticed it. Get too busy re calculating what this all mean for lost time. How many galaxies are we losing per second how long until the next rocket can be launched somewhere and electron flies off its energy cloud of black hole has erupted a mother has finished setting the table for dinner a law and order marathon starting. The astronaut. Is this week. He's forgotten to turn on his watch which takes against his risk like come it'll pulse he does not here. He dreams of coral reefs and Clinton. His fingers on the pillowcase to Saban masks he turns on his side. Opens his eyes once he thinks. That -- that banks must have the most wonderful job in the world so much water to client group."

" And."

" Give us some more on these and I. And there's an element monger. News that I like it's on its X. That it Allen was a little bit experimental for me that's coming I was playing around with -- continue. With my voice. And it's funny I started out with me horrible. Stage I just crippling in the bad. And I still have pretty pretty close to attract listeners and retirement reform hasn't really gotten away but I have gotten better hide and it. But now I've gotten used to perform poetry. But what still catches me completely -- still utterly terrifies me singing in front of people stuck now that's the next goal is to figure twenty patents that. Breaks murdered at Nevada and I like you do it so it's gonna ever read that it could have very. So -- signed I want to I want to India not this past summer but the summer before. I was traveling around them northern India. With a group of students I was working on a documentary. Film project. And it was me incredibly. Life changing. Experience. And when I got back this everyone I knew it kept asking how is India or what have you been up to and what's been going on and I realized had. How often. In our lives we have. -- incredibly important experiences. And how we. Have such a disconnect ending -- to explain them to other people and so I wrote this piece. In response to the question. What have you been up to lately. Late week. Lately I've been living with fighters but his roommates go they haven't been too bad."

" The one in the bathroom keeps to his shattered and tiles and one in the bedroom to get a little bit crabby but for the most part he keeps his -- out. I guess all those car engines and hairspray is finally caught up to us because this guy here is so polluted it glows orange from 5 PM through night till morning. Some people think it's disgusting that you can wash off what you thought was at Camden me. I can't help but find love with the city that has fifteen hours of twilight. If I ever have a grunge rock band alone in that beautiful pollution. Outside the city the dark it's so dark it is easy to forget which day -- Tuesday. But the night there was a dry lightning storm it was like strobe lights through the window I snuck outside instead with my face up smiling I thought god was taking photographs. Even though I felt really standing there in my underwear. I figured I needn't be embarrassed he's seen me in a whole lot -- some nights I wake up with a black hole in my chest. It echoes like -- beat boxing hurricane and -- grandmother's memory. I tried -- face he. And didn't help. I gave a haircut with big -- pieces and even made it look kind of nice it was mainly a courtesy cut anyway we all knew it wouldn't do much for the life or the bad congress. I've been looking for my favorite constellations. Everywhere but I can't find any yet the basis between stars are so different here much. Why can't I have always relied on the English of others and in this direction -- named desire it's no exception. On a cement roof top somewhere off the highway is creeping its way towards night when nineteen year old -- you read a lot -- and this -- the girl he is in love when she speaks English he does not. So he cannot explain to me that this is forbidden. But he is already set to marry whomever his parents choose but certainly someone in the village and certainly someone -- and the cast and certainly not this woman wrapped in yellow silks -- from the photograph he shows. I -- different anyway. Something about the moon some stars in this -- the way her eyes sparkle and how he wishes they were together -- I handed back to him he takes it from my hands and read it carefully -- laugh out. He does not understand a single word for read diligently. And slowly looking up at every so often to see if he -- pronouncing the words correctly. When I hear what I have written out loud to cliches -- in the air between us like bad press and I wish that I could take it back and -- it over I would -- DNA out. Be careful about rooftops. Not about how high they are a bit about how quickly -- heart beats the faster Ukrainian -- is hands. Are good for climbing I like the way he stands behind his mother while she's working not so much to insist on helping her but just to let her feel his presence in case she needs him to reach for something on a top shelf. I like that he believes in love letters. The cancer few inches too short. Has -- ever come to visit him here probably not the peacocks are enormous they don't like cats. No one seems to pay them very much mind but the males dance across all the rooftops of the village banking for somebody to notice details. Good luck with your secret. There. -- gets to the end of the letter and -- the words I love you. These -- words he understands he smiles the enormous smile and bows his head. And the way back to the cars. The translator tells me that -- wishes to say thank you I tell him to tell rob because black and he does so -- put both hands inside the car window and says to me. Don't about it over and over thinking me for the love to have -- home. The hotel and impact. You never marry her translator tells me after we've been on the road for a few minutes in the dark. Yes and say but he can love. It is monsoon season and I watch is total street -- river banks and -- become death traps not even the evictions are safe. But cobra I met in the garden behind the -- was much smaller than I'd imagine but the mangoes were -- sweet that's probably why -- become an open. -- crowd out it has made its home inside. Mom elephants here they all look orange. I think it's because of -- in the so."

" And song choices -- That's the answer. I was thinking. If you ask. The spoken word quote. Terrorist does that. Peace have a kind of put it forward in it. And where does it does it read its own form."

" That's specific com or spoken in public change now. --"

" Well."

" I don't think there is any. Pretty. Determined form necessarily. To spoken word poetry. I think that's one of its best attributes and also one of its biggest index. Pressure. I think. That specific -- from me wives. Have. I mean there was a story that I needed to town. But I knew that it wasn't just about the story it was very much about. -- is going on Crimean what had been going on linked to use them as much more about. Trying to. Trying to us to find a way to express all of the things have been going on which is rare for me usually in my poetry it's -- our. Tied to a specific. Narrative. -- was a little bit more free flowing I think. Through -- process. The thing for me about spoken word is unspoken word peace has not finished until it has performed you know if I finish your writing it. At home at 3 o'clock in the morning on my laptop that doesn't mean it's done it's not done until it's on its feet. And I figure out what needs to be changed. A lot changes in the performance. And at times -- plenty of times I've written. Poetry that I think is great and brilliant and I have a killer last line and then I get up and I start performing and I realize I don't know latest action pacs. Not at all knowing that this is supposed to go and then he gets changed. Which is one of the reasons why a lot of my work is not written down -- it is written on it in -- various forms because it changes so often from one performance to the next."

" Two it is something in common with the jazz or maybe with the stand up comedy hoping that your use your back and put New Orleans I think."

" I think the best Coca or -- find a way to incorporate the audience into what they're doing you know we have. And an idea -- audience there which. Page comics don't. Get so why would you performed something. And ignore those other people in the room when you incorporate them into the experience are you acknowledge that there there. I think that's wonderful and I think that's. That's an audience really appreciates Amazon."

" Other polls out this that we read on the page page puts you call him. That are waiting to be rediscovered -- spoken word."

" I think I think the I think great poetry. Translates. You know great poetry is great poetry who would you like to reinvent X humid as a couple hundred books. --"

" Well I honestly I think a -- is a great is great off the pitch I love reading it but."

" I also Loveland Carlos Williams. A lot -- and I absolutely think that is where does not to be heard out there's a rhythm to it and and the word choice he's so economic about the words that he picks. And the words he uses. And he shows them very very specific reason because they were the right ones and to be able to hear those words out I think it's pretty can do."

" I wrote that column when I was I think seventeen. And it got picked up for HBO has eighteen. And that's the performance and most people know because that's then most mainstream access to any of my work. And."

" From me US when my process -- a big part of my process is. Not denying where I am right now so when I was 1717. Year old poems and and Tony 121. -- Ponzi on what that means is a lot of my poetry does have a child's life you know and I think my night better work hopefully. Has a little bit more staying power but their claim poems that I write that I don't grow. As a way as I get older because this group and yeah. Right so it's funny to me that that Poland has has been. As. Come along for the ride I guess would be the latest it. I I turned 21 this past summer and I gave him a -- Performance in the dark city had to Barry poetry club which is where. Where I started and where I it was given my poetry legs to stand on and where I've been blessed with incredible mentors and incredible peers and fellow poet and so I -- I showed there for my 21 birthday and I performed hands are probably the first time since I was eighteen didn't have."

" I'm gonna adhered to a new and year old reading your boots and Nero will have a -- of people used to tell me that I had beautiful hands. Total so often in fact on Monday. I started to believe them until I asked my photographer father hey Danny can be your camera all to which he said no way. I don't remember the reason he gave me and I probably would've been upset but there were far too many stuffed animals to hold too many crayons to crap too many homework assignments try to -- coney -- to many -- to leave that to. Many years to -- We used to have regained my dad and I about holding hands because we have hands everywhere. On the beach. In a part in a movie and every time either she or I would whisper a great big number -- the other pretending that we weren't keeping track of how many times we had held hands that we -- this -- had to be eight -- 2700. And 53. -- learn. More than mines do. Can learn how to hold up their hands had -- pencils and mold poetry had to memorize computer keys and telephone buttons in the dark. How hold babies and touch old people I love hands a couple of people get it compasses. With which we navigate our way through life feeling our way over mountains passed and -- crossed they are our -- some people read -- to -- your future but I. -- hands to Italian power. Each scar marking a story worth telling each -- com east cracking knuckles is and missed -- years in a factory now. -- Middle Eastern hands clenched in Middle East and fists pounding against each other like war -- each country sees their fists. As a war years and others has Anthony's even fists alone. Apparently hands. But this is not about politics -- cans are not about politics this is a poem about love. And fingers. Fingers -- like a beautiful accordion a flash or is it prayer of prayer one time I grabbed my dad's hands -- fingers into -- lock perfectly but he changed positions saying now that can't hold. As for your mom kids Hak5. Teamwork turn lead to camaraderie but it grown up we learn how to shake came and -- firm handshake but don't hold on for too long the dollar go to him at all to -- hands. Not about politics. When did it become so complicated. I always thought it and -- get their day might have looked -- my hands is asking them for the first time. And with laughter behind his eyelids with all the seriousness a man of his humor could muster he said. You know he's got nice hands she could have been a hand model. And for the laughter can escape me -- shake my head at him and squeeze his hand. 8002750."

" to the prescription and short all time favorite poem or put. We've done. Is taken of the swing at -- through it okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna just lifts. People that I love. Getting that in the page world I love for Brian Krause was hands I love her and the moon and a big -- can't. And this it -- and Adrian rich. -- Terry Collins. All of -- map print and then in spoken wired world. -- my -- was first influence on my work. I love buddy Wakefield. Reeves is a huge influence. -- Wonderful wonderful platoon christianity after Alex is that they can Clinton take inspiration to me she she is the one who. Created. Her piano which is the name of team from the -- poetry club which goes to nationals every year. And that's the team that took me -- nationals and as eighteen. As the youngest person at nationals yeah. And she created that and she's an amazing woman and an amazing kind."

" Put talent would you most -- That you don't how hot yet."

" I would love to have I would love to have a thicker skin. And it accounts of talent and effort going with talent I guess I would love to be athletic. Which I am utterly that my brother is."

" Is a incredible incredible athlete."

" And I like to tell him that that's because I gave him all of my athletic teams and and he gets -- them."

" Who's your favorite character and all the fiction red. Willow. --"

" Doesn't when he appeared cast your -- up. Bottom."

" My favorite. Book classic fiction. Piece -- hundred years of solitude and so. I don't know if that is considered character and that cook it. As a as a work that would be my -- Alison that's the only that's the only book that I have memorized the first line of the book. Content and --"

" Like so many years later as he faced a firing squad. Kernel around -- India analyst remembered. Just an afternoon when his father took him to discover ice."

" Hopefully -- close --"

" Anyone anyone. Just take -- instead of one."

" I think it is going to be one fictional character."

" It would probably. Be actually not an account. At six specifically they can't stand. It would be blue and check. Which is from. The adventures of improvement chain which I believe it was. Age. You know thirteen. Adolescent. Let her share of luck that I read when I was you know fourteen or something but I just remember that character being. Everything that I wanted to be. Who didn't injure binge. Good vendor was a average. The guy who woke up one and decided he was going to change his name officially too. Including entry and he and his girlfriend has named Omaha Nebraska. And he solved problems. Very simple problems that Bernard. Important to people so someone needed to make the perfect. Key lime pie -- think and he had defeated attitude and -- was problems."

" who's the artist. All time in any medium that you sort of fuel. Kinship group who's that who's out there. Who are -- doing your work in another medium."

" Well I don't know if this discounts. But my father is a photographer. And he. And I own a share her. They love finding. The moment. And trying to capture and he does it officially. I do it with words but that is something that I think I learned from him was to. Find you know he says by candlelight he means it literally but I think I take it slightly more benefit to -- And professionally or I guess where he still provisional but besides him I love my three. I love him and -- and I think that his work. It's very playful. And often. Dark but also. -- He's very concrete. He uses things that I can see and recognize and feel. And that's something that I chanted his name actually my own bank."

" Too good to have to do what you're gonna go to drink -- Do you can -- that that's sort of my soul and in another."

" and chanted there's there's a filmmaker and they want car lie. -- from Hong Kong who made this film in the mood for love also Tony 46. And keys. In neutralizes. And -- the most beautiful town I haven't seen. -- and it's so subtle. It's so quiet he said not a movie my little brother would be able to sit and about the my little brother -- took about a Petritsch activities I guess that could. Did other areas that -- over kindred spirits."

" What you see is the key note. Of your personality. In your work. And."

" I come from a pretty personal place. You know if I'm if I'm being political it's not drive politics. And it had to come from somewhere very very personal. There's. There's -- saying which is. To write what you know. And I was taught don't write what you know right what you don't know and you're trying to figure out. And I would say coffee and play nice it can't read a -- It's because it's something I've been thinking about it and I'm trying to figure it out for myself. And sometimes I get to enter a comment I have since an advocate in the common I have no idea stealth. But I -- For that reason comes from a very personal. Place."

" single quality that you love in a poem viewers or anybody else's. If you -- form of home."

" While love look at and you have a killer last time. Pat's -- really standing."

" UT can hope high school here in Providence -- of what are you monitor your students --"

" What do I not later favourite -- yeah. They're wonderful they're what has. Kept me in the spoken word world I think. Because I started a long time ago I am I started last fourteen which -- have been doing this for awhile and I. Has certainly been watching it -- for a long time. I when I started all I did was watch spoken like constantly and immersed myself and is as many different poets and styles as I could. And I think there was a planet which I was I was almost done I thought I was done I was. Board I have there's nothing else to be learned and can teaching and being able to articulate to a roomful of high school students who up until this point had no interest in poetry has taught me to. Figure out what is good and what need to work. It was a wonderful things 11 of my students ranked upon. It is and it's not very -- know it's kind of liking it. And then they perform and somebody else comes up -- as well I know exactly what you're talking and you can see it like. Brushfire and it it just like stomach and they say oh hey. He gets other people in -- I -- which I think is a very. You know universal feeling for teenagers that's what's -- in high school is so important."

" What's your motto. Right now my motto is it's. Safe thing you know. I think my and my mother is isn't very good now. -- tries to be very out. And every. Morning when she wakes up the first thing she does is safe and Keyon. And when she goes to sleep she says thank you -- him and I really like and I can trying to. To discipline myself to do this campaign."

" Sure okay thank you think you."

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