Title: Fireside Chats #65: Where we analyze the blueprints and lay out all the options

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" Welcome to episode numbers 65. Fireside chats. Weekly -- Red Sox podcast. From firebrand the American League justice each. Rob -- sweet spot worked on years yet dot com. I'm typically -- co host all pester. And Paul it's. It's it's hot though it's -- time a year and others the World Series to be played ball but. I admire that they've -- on -- You don't -- Are you best that in this World Series at opal like interrogate him like you are you put in Atlanta -- most bitter bitter. Editor. And I -- the expert. To somethings that are being said. Kills -- I idol it's now a lot of tools. And he skipped hearings and that. Yeah in the longer corporate they're like 2000 that would Red Sox east would be excellence its fury. That there are. -- You know oh here. Kind of take so because shaving cream -- face ever be a little bit it's fair to say. Is it fair to say that they are different that Yankee teams passed the bill compared to the 2000 corporate sector you know the reds past the it -- it that this team is a little bit looser is actually a little bit more likable enough that -- do it. Come the general public. This -- a little bit more likable com -- and -- the general public pick up and now now. -- Cables and all that stuff but. Details about the payroll lot of just at the end people on the field you -- I don't like anti hero I mean -- look at it from a global standpoint or from you know baseball fan's standpoint I don't think people look at the fact that it's 21 million dollar payroll. And they got twenty million dollar players every single position. That it's. Like community and that -- that's that -- and so I think that mark it here is inherently. Likable. It and it every Wednesday that I don't he's an idiot because he's. Because he's in good player quite like he hustles. Although they don't read about where. The only good off the lake east across the -- likely play at eight and that's but he looks like he's having. Final putt that he -- I think you've seen some of the faces even news it's greed that is the or is that if he -- and he's quote little guy -- nightly build the but he looks. He looks like. He's in Julian just plain -- all of this. More than just playing baseball he's like of a Bill Miller right. You know except better. -- like ease ease. He's a baseball polar and -- not a big personality. But beads in the hair I think he's inherently likable because he's very good at what he does come. I think the bats meet a lot of other people around that he likable. I -- I think -- A-Rod performance has helped a lot it obviously. But. I'll obvious statement that the nation of Kate Hudson its crew that the in. You know. This sudden. Humidity they'd like you it was always so robotic. To robotic it's a question. -- but it's a little less for it it worked pretty ironic in -- everything force now it's just. Awkward -- it. It's it's what you made it though. I don't care to talk to your -- robot that's what yet it's you know but he used to be fake robotic now it's awkward like you know might sound. The thing about Iraq -- the week. The world. Has come off -- the action of the celebrities. You know."

" Which we kind of speculated about it beginning of the year we thought that it might be slow oughta -- because -- for. Because the pressure that that this would happen potentially this kind of impact adamant. You don't like the cost of performing out of the key in the area in Leo yes. You know -- he has to -- gains. That we just comes -- right back down the to come out of it yet to come out at home running game studio yes I think. That's the Miami it is it keeps it on past but I do think that it -- slightly more likable. It speaks Jeter the Eaton the you know now he's kind of a grizzled the grizzled veterans. You -- people start to say that you have been thinking that he's in his defense. It's worse than it has -- he's improving get you see those types of comments and even -- Patrick circles these actually being his range over liquidate. Rivera is like it again well that's the thing about that yet that's it."

" We're actually in the lower rate the quirk that -- is never eat on those guys there and Derek Jeter."

" I've always been a huge huge I hate -- yankees and I always against him. But I I never audience that if he Meeks please can we go back compared late."

" Now not just very happy second baseman but a player like mark L and the -- that was horrible defender."

" For me the person that doesn't studies -- metrics I thought he pleaded unbelievable second 88 please was pretty and turn the double play unbelievable. I was -- a hot walker I can't what's the fans not. So actually so I understand what is. Radiating. A late night on -- to -- it you don't have been. I don't lie to our people here done this and I understand people's needs negative whether that means. You know after only eater but can be used as a ballplayer and he's -- while Larry please game righty. And it doesn't matter if he's the sixth I faced anything like that he displays and excellently mix mr. it's gone -- the club options and a."

" That's -- beyond belief and I think that's great for them. Com."

" But IQ. Well that they gets. Its abs -- don't look -- not lines that -- that weight because the Yankee fans. And the Yankees circles and and the media reports that made fun of the Red Sox this type of approach. Are valid reason sniper approach and tries wall and then on the flip side maybe it's hawks take a little bit more of -- you know picture of this. And realize that the teams that like that are here it says it's not like that did not have that they."

" On an eight at intensity did not have fun and it."

" And Rachel weeks discount that and I think it's very very important evil for six months the other day. It's good to doubt -- its opening day at Celtics basketball. Quote Kevin Garnett it's Israeli -- it would just. Not sports like that what sports and treatment efforts. Baseball's my hat."

" It's so funny -- AMOCO we get so lambs I think even now. Late in the McCain right now it's."

" You know. Just following the Red Sox on. Different things and I suppose. And here. But it's yeah it's the plant that all that matters because. But there's going to be -- it and then it's."

" Like -- you know that that Celtics are gonna be in the playoffs. Are having to beat. Remarkably Owen for seats -- not the in the playoffs and you know there team that's gonna be. -- competition in the playoffs even if -- electrified Seton things ballpark. And so who cares what happens between now and then they can be 500. And there are still. You know. A potential threat baseball if I made. And up that you have to be best the I feel I feel like and I don't want other people. That are based office killer diseases too long a team in part to keep it from me it's. Everything is so important because everything has an impact on the next game in the next gain momentum swings in players. Confidence and an. You wanna watch all -- ends and closed out of season and you you if you miss a game or inning yet bat. It's like you you missed some history of aptly been through that season you know yeah. -- initially let's move board. It's one analyst at -- well that's what you speak about it even with the expansion while our you know. If it's along c.s and on and 62 games but every game does count because it's only while parts. You don't play in it and get -- it comes down to one or two games difference usually in those in those spots so yes every. Generally. One team in the middle season could be the difference between you make -- An enemy and that's why every game. Does matter and I still think we CC teams especially the division just as importantly these games but you know. And all the at least 50%. Of the -- the the teams make the playoffs. That's certainly not the case well it's the let's let's bury the -- With that perspective on this you know this Red Sox season it still feels a little bit like a failure. And the -- made the putts and obviously billionth. It does feel like a failure in that they didn't it it as far as we thought if we lost the meals yes. The Yankees heartbreaking bundling predict it would be -- ball bought. I would out of though looking back on the season like. A little bit less of -- let -- the news. That was a -- a series that felt like they get past this series and to do it is no pop. -- Felt it right it's almost like we didn't have seen it celebrate 11 win so it yet we're no different -- than last eaten out. For right I agree that's a great way to put a I agree with that so. You kind of think back on the -- that you think may be yeah it wasn't as successful but as of pretty good these are at look at this debate that is trying to you know late."

" just 95 wins 95 and the elites that it's an impressive accomplishment."

" And of the top five offenses in baseball across the board."

" To that I can think of at least six game losing streaks parents don't mind if I mean this team what's it could. Good team."

" It to -- and that was that was elect them. It's playoffs magazine like every flaw that we -- the team is completely exposed as a tree in three games which is unfair but on. Yeah now and I said we kick off our our playoffs allies that I will take a three game sweep -- the Yankees if it guarantees the Yankees in the World Series. And we were swept in three games so so those -- fill it out there live up here are still at the other end of the bargain and give the Yankees on the nation's. Paris but before we get into that with the -- you report. The World Series do you give the Phillies the chance I think you have to -- a chance here's the problem. From per car owner Bradley an entire year and for -- earlier this year at two straight games. It's they say he's back they say he's pitching like he was last year. One run lead in yankees the eighty Bradley on the -- and pretty certain it's gonna turn into one run in. New York Yankees and I think that's gonna be the Achilles heel for the team."

" And I. And so my thoughts processes he will -- two teams east."

" And and it. But you know I hope -- obese act but yet and why it's. He knows he sees that he's definitely neutralized with Howard Utley but. You know easily -- out there to 83 times depending on -- out. And but you know at the guy who's -- reverse splits right selection actually hit that it barely wells though. Yeah. I think that that is it that I beat the Phillies back to give but it. I've really. And it's nice that they have Matt Stairs at exactly the we -- on. 88 months he sees it it but the but the other game you know eat it that's if they're most National League teams -- have a at each position that stroke."

" Well it'll be. In the very exciting to see Pedro Martinez in. Yankee Stadium for game I get to meet is that I I he I think it's likely that he's giving each of it but it. That's another that's a great I'll I'll look forward to that administers this is a moment like. I could go obviously watched the games but they're almost not appointment viewing for me right now that they're. Beyond I will watch but the when I wake up the morning to let it be except. And just this. BA I've watched pre game. Because that -- see Yankee. Yeah and -- act on appeal that kind of pension and just everything crescendo. Peter takes its first pitch. I think it's I think it's can be blast that -- going to be shell. I mean it could issue of the Yankee offense but it."

" That's because if that's obviously that's a report move by -- and golf -- to put Pedro in that situation when. There's such a left handed. Heavy lineup and you know a lot switchers but. The left in his short porch when you have the opportunity to go lead in Hamels I don't know why not take it band that yankees. But I chose Pedro -- and it. I think they've got to win game one because it sees that -- there if well it will see I I I think that you're looking at. Likely yet that's six game series with the Yankees winning what do I expect. I think it's more likely to -- yankees in five then. You know. Seems to be accepted up -- there in congress at its threat."

" So. We have that the -- to. But more important -- have next season the court Q that's I'd like to spend the rest are. -- today -- as -- look back on a few posts that Evan Mike and myself made at the they're beginning of the offseason laid out a couple different routes the Red Sox could take it sets the stage it's. Some good wasted on -- conversation about the Red Sox need to do this offseason to. Improve on and 95 when -- next year calmed. And I'll start with kind of three different -- it felt like. You know we. -- Focused on bringing Felix Hernandez. I went win. Bring anything -- right. My silver in the middle didn't make it big tree. Fill some gaps with free agents. Holiday and scooter row but didn't the elements of -- heart attack from that didn't you didn't deal the prospects held on the -- that he's the only one. It held on the buckles. Right now there's -- compartment if you could only of one player off of the following list in the offseason who -- Pulitzer and is -- Gonzales Jason date Matt Holliday John Lackey. And it's pretty split 43% nukes and it is 42%. Eight dollars at the top. Which. Having sealant which kind of -- you'll. Expect the -- to take were the beach. Without a doubt it's not -- Do you think they're gonna go big they're gonna go back now that means that likely gonna give them they buckled to act. And so. They get it do what you hate and reclaim pictures again in the back half of that rotation."

" I know I don't think that's necessarily that you think -- free agent out there that they can. That are decently you can throw money John Lackey but it. -- you get a multi role John -- On. -- doesn't take. I mean it does take 08 -- although we -- that. You know I mean either back after the rotations underneath the he'll be a five starter in the major leagues with a -- but Marie I don't think that change it's just it's done. What we saw that I think -- most important is it's definitely meet that need to field agent meet the rotation without. Projects that was utter failure a disaster there's nothing to say about. I'll feel completely fail and that union and gone. End Red Sox beat on throw one out five to ten million dollars to its pitchers that might not it. With the exception of someone like retarded. Even take a fly back and I -- hard hard hard I think is a little bit more than that though because he's a multi year right eight million dollar tech guy. You know verses. A bed sheets might fall in your reclamation project. Looks like someone that it's not 53 years old. To record supplier reclamation project -- need the old and reclamation except that only got a -- like a stop -- one year go outlook because of that that's that she's been -- an example come off of what it sees that and half. -- the injuries. Com. I think it's very likely he's given the one of those by color a year one year contract. Reclamation projects the -- will. I think -- bear interest -- these these. Does that make you mean I do you feel about that knowing that you hate reclamation projects for what you're by -- players. It's if if you're not throwing. The season into that. Project working right now. I'm okay. So we'll let you know I think I think it is -- at -- and we have to Wakefield. You know to Michael's gonna break down. We just know it like it I think that we -- it is fair to say that all the bit you know. -- injury. Made the reclamation projects. Much more important this season then you know. That is in here ray and -- that on fat injury. That he might you know what I mean he's inability to deal it but I don't think I think it starts saying it's. I fat. And I would out of shape I didn't yeah I I well I glossy Red Sox. You know five months of service because. Didn't do any stuff. -- that if and that's when he. It I want to I won't disagree with that and you know these priorities the leading up to. The World Baseball Classic clearly with the World Baseball Classic it. You know. At that on top vote. Not be cheap. The -- and maybe myself when it gets in and a get straight -- he does you know and that's something place these things to tease him on this team. That can make -- team better and you know we can throw stuff out. Let me -- out -- this -- not create their apple -- it's probably wise it's that's the hardest but why its decisions. Eight each year. Well today we will dispute that show were -- rule everything out there right there's no if this is -- This is what we think they're gonna do this is the this is a peek could you -- Com. I was like the preface that we calm before about patents that stuff ever looks like the you know eight. Paper critical about every specific movement is now this is getting all options out there you -- everything you know the -- their. -- Com. And yes I think yeah. Papelbon. -- a heavy -- Buckle -- on the block is subtle little contract fill -- up into the esteem I don't wanna see it has its core. But he needs to get better and went backwards lock it right in. Victoria you coolers Lester. You know -- although someone but I think you'd you would also consider. Com for the right feeling in my opinion that. Yeah you if if you so that's what you can't possibly get Felix hits in eight. You can pop you get those two players. If you treat them right pieces and -- feel the rest and -- money. You know because it's poppy it's hundred million are 120 developed Errol you know lately. Let's double to one point 150 let you know you can go -- of the -- I'm doing it now. We always wondered weird the money that mean he took out of this system going into the system this year it will be it. And he did. Eight smoltz and gave. But the -- was lower by about it. Fifty million. You're here again I don't know if that Soviet. From the 2007. Season under. 5049. It's like that at eighteen. So. This is that got started. Via. With respect -- acquire. Com. What position. Use the bad are those that need to come from obviously one. He'll talk about options and if released an air that's one of the heat pump. Com where else would you thing. They're likely to look for. It depends on on them once its. Digital lol I think that it. Musical it's beautiful on third base. That's the case that if if if if not -- it -- and it will treat him from lake. Nice complementary east team to get another player and NE salary which attacks that. -- You know it you're comfortable you glitz O that the -- Yes it's for speaks you go to the media not that courtesy a quarter infielder. It is is -- place that you right now for act that have to beat a bat that produced more than micro. That's that's that's kind of it a starting point is one week ago. And it's one thing that's and it might very very productive. Yet yeah I would say. Our expectations and he -- this year. But overall grand scheme of things you know loser of Michael hold this year at third -- the fact that. Many of its its singles and doubles and normal player in not getting support runs because. Its inability to run those all at the factory in Morton fact that it's -- It -- it's not mean he he's he's in."

" Two leading hitter with the Al 1819 homers 75 RBI that's that's that this is that right -- but put you look it. You will the take a page from the right here today if you look at G -- 68 with twenty homers and 65 RBIs which one's more. -- I would argue more packed full -- for a lot of reasons defense. Running the bases sector even though the numbers just -- against the -- those numbers lol looks. And I think that teaches. Yet he's you're gonna get production -- get much better production. If you're willing to buy the right from the corners. -- Tim Lee in this was in my very and I think that the brits are going to be extremely aggressive. At pursuing are eager to sort of Parker's act like that's. It for a lot of reasons. -- player that makes them both sent off at the to earth. To leverage your prospects including buckles. And this is where we ended the trading Papelbon conversation -- month with a not a valued the Padres. But how about going to support to bring value that can go along the pod race or apple -- being in -- going. The Padres are all. Even play when you talk about it it's without. I think PM. That the best -- that I got from the apartment community on the post with that and I haven't this is accurate is that to get the the the package to get it gives -- how. Have to be similar with the Rangers got for mark to share when they traded him to land it at that -- and I believe in a few years back which woods Saltalamacchia. Elvis Andrews. And but for other the -- three or four other players. Three or four which are making an impact on the roster right now. From the -- and the good thing about that is personally seen which ought to wear nose Red Sox arts. -- and they. So right you know. It seems like will be easier for that trying to work out a deal on an op. Like all US prospects is. Now -- look -- I think the tricky that you studios. It might would be looking for a little bit more Major League ready to throw the Red Sox clearly have offer. Buckles clearly need to be ready if you wanna go data Barton -- some of those players you know at the camp that there's there's really -- Next year -- players like Lars Anderson still not quite in eight at the ready. Right keyless ami is to keep that it I'm eating it could have there that. A."

" Ours was marked as or maybe it was because they have the right Santa -- the LA and then that's the thing it's it's of the red. We need to answer in now and and it's not answered just throw money because of retouched really smart it'd probably one of the strongest points via -- be able to trade players for good players in the offseason."

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" He's got its work cut out -- But I I'm not surprise I'm not surprised that the -- like Adrian Gonzales fault block option up hey what's pot let's get him Harris. You know. You know I can see him he's going to get an impact back and it's gonna be players along those lines I think. And -- in -- and went surprisingly different make a big trade for pitcher as well. One way -- the other end. Using the chips that we talked about."

" I think after this season he realizes ago wall way to go if you want to -- with the Yankees beat the post season."

" That yes makes Texas and holding on to the east jams veterans in the moderately system. Probably. Either they got to come up in produce they got to make a movement."

" And and trade him."

" When you look at left to. But we're we're do you think direct talks -- include the annual fielder it's not going to be -- great oh lead at which is that your. -- the options. Anywhere from. Jason day. Matt Holliday. Or a mid term solutions like Bobby Abreu. Or a shorter term solution might Jermaine Dye or Johnny Damon Hideki Matsui. A variety of ways you could go you know it. With that position then. We're who we're do you see that go where do you want the -- one other reason I'm not worried about the."

" This is the -- just ain't. Obviously when I think they should do if they think they should go for space proven that he can player."

" I completely sold on and that he's a great player -- it -- that's defensively all that stuff but he can player and cookies numbers."

" Com that holiday what we know of him in the American -- Wasn't meaning. You know showing it'll. Was very active in that lineup would be more protective gear on but."

" Wouldn't mind him his second but -- more often it's perfectly fine with the -- you you know I'm perfectly fine with Tony died."

" A perfectly fine with -- game. -- decking at this."

" A lot of option yeah -- it's it it feels like there's not lot of options that they're horrible body differently he could play that position."

" I wanted it to debate that the holiday -- a little bit. I actually. I've come around. At their. To be a little bit Mort just kind of looking at Matt Holliday. In the numbers he's put up. It kind of doesn't notice it partially because people discount anything that happens in Colorado structure that. Over the past I pick four years since 2006. He's been one of the top five players in baseball. Bombed by kind of player value metric ton on fan zone -- you translate your impact in their runs in the wins and then. You know calculated dollar value against that -- Date date he's consistent with the top five players in all of baseball you know. Clearly one of the top five all -- top outfielders in all of baseball. For an extended period of time and that takes into consideration defense the you know running. Defense and offense com. And it made me think of it this is -- that proven player for. Keep considerable lot of time. If he's gonna cost him. Up 20% more than Jason -- for another. You know for another year he's -- younger. I'd be thought I'd be fine with that actually. You know depending what he's asking I would give Jason -- a fighter contract right. I would rather give Matt Holliday is six year contract that Jason -- but. I can I connect."

" That. You know let's not go down that -- again no one if let's say that was the other options let's say we need one of those two guys like we definitely want -- guys don't get it. 81 analyst who got let's not lose out to the Yankees again because that one on one year. Because it because my thought process and I think there's mine probably -- things the my thought process on that is every year."

" network paint schemes somewhere around the fifteen million dollars meat -- war."

" To have our players I thought we still paying money and it Eritrea I don't. If I were not included it feels like we probably can't be right -- that mean we -- which Julio Lugo pain you know we eight."

" All of smoltz contract all pennies project at work paying money now but we're not giving an extra year."

" We can just meaty. Mike hates what else the -- and if that's your -- Let's not lose these bidding wars over 11 more -- caught."

" But then it's it's too. In the beach to -- they might feel they can go along with Bayer holiday -- multi year -- longer contract at a cornerstone. At pretty big dollars where they can go shorter. And get. 75% of production from an older player. And think. Is Carl Crawford a year down the line the type of player you might wanna plug it worries that in an effort -- right. Put together it was productive columns the people that are free agents you know 123 years out in the outfield there's not. Well the -- free -- com coming down I. But you know there are some pieces that you could aggressively say let's bring in some in the short term and then com. And and then go after one of those preach it's harder because you like that percent better than they were. Did they -- kind of picnic. It's either -- holiday and they knew which one that they wanna be that the yet I am and I think that they probably put the money that position before they put the money job. I would I would agree that -- I think I think."

" Would it be a saint -- in in the years in it on the road in LA it's obviously a concern it's. So I think this year you will see Democrats get some hitters. At tacked that on upbeat note that a lot of what's the top to bottom. It like -- alt equals X. So that lets look at. Some of the names that offensively and and put together on that we haven't talked about. The -- was to figgins at third base. As he did that -- pencil and a topical lineup you know. Thoughts I calculate your -- so -- great I I well. I think he's gonna he's someone I don't want to throw four year contract that and have him be my third eight years. He's not."

" Mean he's not a quarter you know production tight. Firm -- corner and there I think what he does is great and I Tiki wreaks havoc on a lineup but he's 31. I believe 3031."

" Apple get -- on any of -- four year contract the all of sudden 35. Not all know our -- artists passes were. You know twenty that there. So here's a 122 you get it into -- my case wells didn't have a -- it up speed puberty. Yet. That you know you this Eden and that's his biggest asset. And if you are those speed in the pop man. That's all I do like -- I think he's a great compliment require a great 12 years. So."

" I'd stick with cutting the -- the other position we have -- shortstop. Is Alex Gonzales and his six million dollar option a minute all three of us like you don't -- Mike in the middle in this second -- had Marco Scutaro on a three year contract coming in. To late short which I am definitely not a man of it -- it was at. Varies even if there was that seriously steadily. Since the clip."

" Alex Gonzales to be not at six million dollar player definitely not option and I think that -- put in Leo. I was gonna stick in the negotiated out before I think -- And bring him back I I think Alex Gonzales trees. As -- and twice now play air and be productive end. I think the Red Sox realize and I -- Alex for a it's Gonzales goes that down. He's not -- air and and with in his best interest at this point it's career. It's more beneficial to work state Red Sox and sun. And fight. Them and you -- to two years for a million a year. Yet like that that type deal bomb and then the second year. At four million before dollar back up so that gallery you know we get it's an early teens plan it right. Report a much better at it goes yeah yeah we've paid off every other shortstop that's in these parts rates though. -- went -- continued trend that yet let's say it's like an amazing solution out there at shortstop. You know lately if you get it for immediate need that's movie. He can't get in he can't get. It's college he'd left it now it needed it's something like that -- you -- honestly. And let you have something like that immediately yet tear. On. -- stop. It it deep that it it's hard to think the you're craving now it certainly gets the ball and the fifth. So -- of him -- could be amended -- going through this that I don't think Mike loves it. Like -- he'll have AM but Michael. Its heels like that if I mean."

" If the if they go big with the first -- right -- it's clearly Michael's. If we don't will be the first baseman or third base -- I don't know who's in there like it took -- right. If they don't do one of those."

" Who come -- seems like the best option. And I think if they don't make moves like that feel that India but here's something you're not gonna have fanatics out there is eight. On -- situation David Ortiz Mike Lowell it's just not -- I don't and I agree. No -- I think. You know you'd get to work easy get Michael one of those it but -- and it would be it would be Michael is much more value to any other team. --"

" I I think that the U laid down a challenge to Ortiz it and -- his -- com or comments about being shaped and you know. I think. But I don't think David Ortiz -- He's done by any stretch that -- nation Tiki can still be a -- impact player in the stretches this year. I I think that he can have a rebound to 7530. Homers RBI a year I think that's. They're realistic Michael definitely. You know reach those numbers and so when used to be if you augment the lineup. The move -- got picked -- specific. You a left fielder votes somewhere. On another thing pro and Adrian Gonzales in the air and now Ortiz is batting sixth -- not having to be the center like the centerpiece of all it. That you think -- that much."

" What are your well. Yeah I think so. I can't have much or city years statistically wise when you look at what -- statistics ended -- act. -- You know take off the two months of the season and I think you can see that in a more consistent. Across the -- takes the winters crazy slumps like after yes after the allegation -- it -- in court finding. It into a huge swamp after that. And but other and I. And I think you'll see more insists the and I do think just weeks that -- 7275. Maybe to 65 but thirty home runs under plus RBIs probably. More than thirty months. You know without written one for two months since Houston in a week he got pretty darn close at thirty."

" Yeah I mean he was he was if you look -- from June something on yet let the leaker was in the top two or three in home. So once he started hitting them. He was as good as anybody else. On and it along well. Personally I'm I'm. I am obsessed with hate to tell -- how readily admit it. I don't know how feasible and I'd see differing reports. A run I I forget who. John havens thinker. Which are saying that. Com. It's likely that the countries will consider trading Gonzales for variety of reasons. The next you know the people say that there's no way that they consider trading because if the beauty who's the higher densities. Com. It's clear to me that there's no time that he's more valuable market -- two years left them this contract. You can give up. Berry berry good prospects or young need to be yours. And feel like you're not weeks from one year rights act. And so that's why I think right now and Jed Hoyer knowing that he's you know going -- he's not a winning team next year. Starting to build something if you could bring in five players. Adrian Gonzales. I Leo that Dick at all haven't attacked and immediately after three years. Vicki you've got a look at that. For sure without a doubt him and and everything he knows Kevin towers some sorry with Kevin towers the GM from the Padres talking to a leaked out payment back snippets -- That's pretty good authority."

" Yet end and -- sit -- those Red Sox knows yet the bill -- I'll probably the best matching up relief it was. Things that you say you know the obsession with the Gonzales as I happen is well now. Tonight it starts with hitters on in and it's left field in -- these series and it finally Clark. Com. The Walton we do that we -- Martinez a full time catcher. Not a and you know what I'm called on comparable -- yeah amino you know are really. Really full packet agents felt you know Ortiz DH gets what liability case of their tickets get beyond the next. Well we'll get rid I don't have enough Libya but but he's not three million dollars he's gotten -- to get that anywhere else up yet when we can get that. -- look at -- they've been so little on -- they react. I don't got some idiotic I don't think it all right but the apparent. But regardless so we make an awful -- catchers and he now for. The stock offer space to sign him after after this option it's over but I think that hurts but looking back. He's gonna be a full time for awhile. Fall into the each spot."

" Look at let's that let's say this I mean David Ortiz last year that's our state next year right -- one year as the full time catcher. And don't forget whose mean that the patriot moving in the marketplace at the at next year's GO power if you could suddenly. Iraq all the sudden things get really interest thing. If -- that DH he's got the pendulum power in this lineup I mean if the Red Sox have look at that. Two to break the bank and they set themselves up payroll wise. With Lester Pedroia you this is extensions Ellsbury under contract. Yeah they've got a lot of excellent -- to the talent -- very good dollars for the next 45 years. That allows them to go out I think. And get aggressive. With those pieces more so than they were. You know 4056. With they would lead with a lot those larger contracts already see at the ship one get one. Com. If you could imagine. It is conceivable. That it could have a team that -- our Gonzales. It Martinez. In Youkilis and Pedroia. Salisbury this."

" He expects media. It's -- and relatives fixable that's that is fixable thought that's bet I -- it is heat. This team can actually. Eat the leader in in the AL east now again. Like they can be the -- Partner 590. It can be fixed it with a couple -- and and the the other thing I wanna get back to quit on. Is. Adrian Gonzales is he's never gonna be portrait he has now in the same thing it's set for job. He's never bet treatable -- it right now. I'd be happy with that years."

" That now here's here's where my my departure on the -- one -- a little bit is that I think it. You're going to have to -- barred. Yet. The people how liberal people. I don't think you can treat Papelbon. If you don't have Bart. Right so. That I I feel like to me well but very treatable. It unless they trade him to bring people in that they can the instead of art I think that's possible. My gut is that -- be -- the -- IIX. Via I think it. It will explore it but I don't I don't think that they. Com. Take lightly. The man have like that I don't think they think they -- the I don't I think I feel like that it it would it would have to -- Get them many Adrian Gonzales keep it apart and allow them to -- lag or something like that would have to lay out right. For them to make a Papelbon -- not out of the question. I think it's -- thing that -- I don't see it."

" Half of its partisan is he Jonathan now on leave. On and huge fan I think he knows then. Most fans now everyone knows is he's going -- it's not. Apps so. You gotta either trade of or get to really get draft picks -- mean so. I don't actually trapped X. I wanna get a real thing in the -- maybe eighty apple money it all straight -- SE ELs well. -- I figured it all -- access EL and then Papelbon included yet you know Felix. It was this just I."

" I agree that there's lots of ways that it does that play out I actually the the other thing -- played against that that I think that apple on the value on the trade market. Easy as high as it. Equivalent position player I think like you Specter I had I I think -- in general. When you look at. Closers in street market values it at the -- to. At that that's the ticket team at the the Papelbon would be different Colorado for. I think if it means that the -- in the post EM and needed to -- he's expected to meet these tree with thirty over the course of the year. That some say it -- street Lou what -- games it's one game. At that that's what it's like he's the street -- then you pitched pretty well for the playoffs they got him for not -- You get I think -- except play this. That's an -- I think you're gonna get the -- in the most teams won't give up the caliber players she would want back to feel like you're getting value. Equivalent value for -- affiliate. -- On this oh this is now -- a bad -- but I understand over the course of 162 games and there are only a handful of teams that I think. It would make it torment you. The dramatic and up the difference with our. Top tier is the thing it it helps middle tier compete for years. And it got its -- east second. For Jonathan but it that is -- that your team. So I guess it's -- here's here's everything capital line that you have the right team has the need. That has the type of players use the chips EP yet for apple right and that's where it's not as a parent and trading buckles rate. -- if there's a lot of different ways the deal -- to give value back. Com I think that the -- the opportunities for apple are. I think he's had to get -- explored in east absolutely chip that could net you com. You know players in a variety of ways will there be any Alastair notes and -- it work. Com you -- the deal absolutely it'll be considered and it's really nice note. -- Billy Wagner has that option. To handcuffed to -- apart for taxis like that if you didn't have that I don't beat out Astrid. It you know there are. So. I agree that would to go back to well that's that's that it do you think about them Columbia Pictures now. So it's no old though Papelbon. Do you think Jason Varitek opium. Not a chance. That it now how does this all play out. For you only get five million dollar -- option. Three million dollar player."

" Okay you exercised three million dollar player option we don't think he -- instantly added to the bench coach to replace pretzels. Ice at NASA's mission ice and I have that is -- I'm no longer play or it thank you we got a very valuable bench coach I think."

" I decline that it's the want it is well thank you gays and it's and that's going to be set. That's -- excuse not --"

" I bet that Letterman don't bet. It's probably your -- time into what's going to happen -- X can get eight million dollars. It's it's that out now look -- The fifth it's fake it's the eighth players that added that it's not a problem. And if I -- I mean. Here's the here's the -- I don't from what I've hurt their tech doesn't have aspirations. Yes I don't think I have aspirations to. I don't think it's way you know I don't think it's part. Not. -- Off steadily. I think if he wants to still be around -- taste and it all else he wants it is this is probably perfect opportunity. Would that saying it's its -- middle sudden does he become. A successor lines often you know -- John Farrell. Right that's true that's a -- its its interest. -- the all the people that think he could be pitching coach. I -- the pictures are there -- catchers that they're pitching will. Did you catchers really know. How to -- matters right like. -- Could you tell your picture of your release point was there what you're doing wrong how workable plan that well. Now I -- it's laughable. The people who he is that it mets' -- which. It is that that's that's that's an aside I do think that's coach situation presents an interesting avenue for their tech in the team. --"

" Capsule and and and I think it's the perfect. Exit strategy. -- I think. Everyone's happy with the exception of maybe Jason in this case but -- it too is that the Red Sox don't want a release."

" But they don't want him. I three. You know get a mansion that -- mean. You don't want him on that that I upper. I'm not that I think guitarists or dusty brown are you be any better on. But it's it's it's much is too Molina Brothers out there that can you back and if there's. More quality backup catching. Available and Jason Garrett and if that's gonna eighties there for nine balls for to go up there and you know catch. 30% of the games and -- any runner is out not elect. Get any of them Molina Brothers and not Italy but the front -- on. Well that's it just it's."

" there is put mark Wagner in Vietnam you know in the systems are up 40% -- Robertson in the minor leagues. You know the we've got other options you know leaving even you know organizations that you could look at India. A defense that only you know backup catcher com. -- person brown mean they're they're back at pictures of what they are -- not I don't -- But it does look like you're gonna put the catching duties at him that's that's his job next year. More than you know. Three -- every five days -- for every -- she. In likely including Tim Wakefield because the economy pretty well. They feel almost immediately rotation that -- that's. I think he -- either opening day starter. I Lanka. So don't Jason Varitek no Michael note Jonathan Papelbon yes Tim Wakefield here chagrin. Of all the people we've talked about yes Jason -- you'd set of all of people who talk that's at yesterday's said okay maybe they're left -- target. You're more tolerant people that you see definitely coming in yes Alex Gonzales. We've got more knows that -- his -- at some positions com. Will close about our Marty -- reckon -- my blueprint. What I've mapped it out I said this is what path they can go out I've talked myself -- which is Adrian Gonzales Matt Holliday retarded -- It's. Still -- apps dot."

" I think that's and whether those of the players on com. I do you think you'll see art and I'm pretty certain although he's. It's injury prone of the is east special. You know all of the picture that."

" EC the the outside the upside down chances are there any upside as John Smoltz -- or Brad Penny are worried about the downside is not his. --"

" It's not like. Hard that it could beat her -- right exactly that's not by itself is not go exactly right it's good. -- when -- arm is good -- he's pitching he's got to put a -- company -- on important you know over an extended period of time but Lott sent out Watson 67 innings Dominic pitch. -- you're not gonna see you know fight the IRAs not be able on com. Nothing I mean he's he's a good pitcher when -- So she wanted to throw around some money and reclamation project he's got -- each did she keep mention Iran. Yes and come on board -- as well -- out of my crazy about it. But he would be like a six guy that."

" six starter yeah you're looking at your you look at that Beckett Lester that matter what -- teeth are so Wakefield four or five. So now you've got Buchholz in the rotation. Or -- great picture right I think we're gonna assume both you and I think that -- gets -- And thank god he acquitted himself well gained three India yes because to meet that only escalated its market value that performance on not dominate. -- ETD. Image only escalated its its value and in people's eyes are rated the public credibility that this is -- you know. Opt for a number two starter potential one calm down on. So -- you look at it. Pardon in the 45 spot and potentially bring that wouldn't like sheets that he's your injury guy. You probably could have the deal of the Oden. Work -- outlook but probably not both and probably not deal -- Iowa. Just because he's signed to a Major League contract you know. I don't think people -- I feel like that's a player that the Red Sox probably wouldn't trade that is your number 67 spark. And so there you go I mean there is pitching depth. Even though you don't Buchholz and you know it's the vote so. To me that's that. We go and acting technique. Fill some gaps in the bullpen with regions potentially Brandon Lyon -- Kiko Calero are those types -- that they'll find water to free agents. That are going glare of the nice safe career. -- collect. Coke there. We don't mean that I feel that there's. That there are ways to -- To fill some gaps in the bullpen com. I don't I think it may hold on the Papelbon there's no Wagner picked up their nuclear. On it so. Well -- it's not -- he's got closer. In the retirement reports ridiculous but he's gonna close acquired that's that's what -- one and rightfully so he's -- it. So it do you think the Red Sox are gonna be a better team and expect on the field next season. Then they. We're when they went into the playoffs this year down wanna -- the -- today and I'm out of the picture."

" See I -- it'll be younger."

" I can give you the same type I mean -- constantly we set an English on 95 wins is unbelievable. You know you -- for. -- to get four games late for those losses to the Yankees we finished tied for the division. If we will want four of those games that we lost after we dominated early on in the season so and and that's how close it really plots. So in the end of the day had -- they're always gonna be in 95. Hundreds someone -- but. We wanna go through this every single year we have to do all the Texas likely we can fix it. So that it's a longer term solution and a more stable team. Armed and that that he -- and build an identity -- and have fun together and T yeah talent and can -- Cheating communion in the face -- it'll walk off you know late."

" They can beat that team."

" In LA last -- and it's fun last question last question it if if it Johnny -- and."

" Here. -- That's -- is that it like look at the statement that all these walks into that and like you to see done Harry -- at getting outside Ethiopia like that victory in this economy Mikey Blake he come out of the corn fuel -- materialized he steps on the Fenway Park in the --"

" We are you critical. Back -- the 2000 trees and look at it here how awful it was the entire year and every passing week we're busy dealing many showed up in 2004. Well. That was keep me. So -- it's an all -- out agony it's in the -- get the scruffy. Lots heat on him back. -- Air please I'd just like --"

" I agree. And I -- I would -- would not disappoint me to have -- it another year of Damon but. I don't think that'll happen but algae from so. All enjoy the World Series. And."

" 65."