Published: Fri, 6 Nov 2009
Description: (NECN) - On this segment of Broadside, Jim Braude shares a report which first aired on National Public Radio. Yesterday, Reporter Daniel Zwerdling did an interview with NPR host Steve Inskeep. Police say Major Nidal Malik Hasan killed 13 peopl...
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" This next report first their own radio and it's worth repeating even without pictures credit belongs the national public prayer. Yesterday a reporter Daniel zwerdling that -- talkback within your -- stevens' ski. Zwerdling portrayed the disturbing behavior of Nadal -- Hassan. As described by a colleague of his songs that Walter reed army medical center."
" The medical staff is very worried about this guy -- the first thing is. He's cold. Unfriendly at least that's -- he came off he did not do a good job as psychiatrist and training was repeatedly warned you better shape up or you know you're going to be in trouble that badly in the classes seem disinterested. But second of all this is perhaps him more relevant in the atom. Psychiatrist says that he was very proud and upfront about being Muslim and psychiatrist hastened to Saban and nobody minded that. But he seemed almost -- about being Muslim and he gave a lecture Monday that really freaks a lot of doctors that they have grand rounds rating and dozens of medical staff coming to an auditorium and somebody stands at the podium at the front. And his election about some academic issue you know what drugs to prescribe for what condition. But instead of that heat on -- sun. Apparently gave a long lecture on the car. And talked about how if you don't believe you are condemned to hell your head. Has cut off your set on fire burning oil was burned down your throat and I said to the psychiatrist that this could be just a very interesting information session right where he's educating everybody about the -- He said that would disturb everybody was that Hassan seem to believe these things and actually a Muslim in the audience and a psychiatrist. Raises hand. Has said excuse me but I am Muslim and I do not believe these things in the car and then I don't believe what you say the current says and then Hassan. Didn't say well I'm just giving you looks one point of view he basically just stared down."
" Totally showing my guess is an expert causes and prevention workplace violence. Bruce seater is president of CMP associates based in -- masters Bruce good to see your failure stories your mom a motive for based on what we know now. Through the news in those sort of things. What was this all about workplace violence religiously inspired Jihad want this guy do this."
" In and looking at the data that I think that I am listening to the report that you just played on. I almost feel as though this guy was -- on a suicide mission it he was like a suicide bomber essence com. And it's hard to know from the little bits of pieces that we sort of put together at this point what the motive really was but. He behaved as if he was going off to dot com he gave away his things."
" All that was reportedly by neighbors that neighbors whom he did not even know before this -- he walked over gave them broccoli is so belongings were offered to pay someone sixty bucks the cleanest house for you know but -- Ed good cover because -- I'm being deployed my -- and -- you know he then went on to do with the debt. And when you say is on suicide mission is that any different from virtually any mass murder office setting out his passion are also -- right --"
" And I think that that's become more more than -- sense is that there is somebody. Who is it and in some -- suicidal. Goes off and goes out and a blazing glory and and then if suicide by cop."
" What -- heard a lot of the radio Saturday included on my station was well either workplace violence order was motivated by religious. Rage that aren't mutually exclusive attending the fact for example of it's true that he's harassed. By some of his fellow soldiers. Over the fact there is Muslim that -- been one of the precipitating causes for the violence no."
" And and in conflict about. What the United States was doing. He being a Muslim I think that in other comments that he felt like United States was waging war against mostly about against Islam. So I think US in greater conflict as he got closer to deployment."
" I'm sure the first question here is every time after these workplace incidents before you worry about how to prevent the next one is could this one have been prevented. I have to say I usually hate that kind of talk. But the more I hear about this this colonel who was lower by lieutenant colonel who served with him. At Walter Reed was on Fox News last night talking about these wild comments about a killing her base in world war. -- this Internet posting again the FBI hasn't said wasn't this the song was it not this is on. The harassment element on this stunning NPR report. Work all the signs -- the -- for someone to step in I don't mean in preemptively incarcerate -- but to do something."
" And I would agree with you when you start to look at this you can sort of wonder why didn't somebody. To step in an interview this guy do something com. I think that and I heard your piece there you know at the beginning of the show. In talking about yellow flags and if you take them you know these little pieces. In an isolated in isolation they're not really so serious but then when you start to put them together they get more serious com. I think also -- a case like this I worry that. We as professionals sometimes in the medical profession com. May not supervise ourselves well enough from the sense we we expect our colleagues to up to be okay and to do what they're gonna do it."
" Effective as I was trying to may have been given him you know I -- special status I worry about that you know people also he's educated -- when he's telling com and we don't have to worry about. But today you know -- and I buy that even though I don't have your background but at this NPR report we just played is true. And in front of a whole host of shrinks the wolverines grand rounds things. He in fact said what he says and apparently it was not according have brought other parts of the report it was not an educational presentation about the Koran. It was one in which when he talked about the the headings and those sort of things. A Muslims throughout praises him a doctor and said that may be with -- says audible buying that stuff. The sun apparently did not say he didn't -- and it's up. Isn't that isn't an nothing of itself in a group or shrinks to say something to somebody."
" Right and I would agree with you I think that come that was the yellow flag and I don't I don't know what happened at that point but it would seem that you would hope that somebody what's happened site. Just it makes sense what."
" It also in the environment to exist because I was -- this the piece of data that are report a couple of minutes or 35% of the source let's record numbers are pre deployment. In the army again creates an environmental warning sign kind of thing so if you had been in possession. Of comparable kinds of information. Your leader your leader in the army additionally -- do what would you have done in this circumstance and again so was hearsay assault was speculation. Some -- it was factories what do you do what we've had done."
" I think that again. If it was if their performance based things that we're talking about it means that there were the number of things that they they they noted that they were concerned about his performance he had been disciplined. And and I think that. I think that if you start to see someone in this case now he's getting. Who extremely religious -- I think it's important -- to bring in men. Talked about this sometimes a fitness for duty is Norton com where you actually have the person evaluated."
" My last question -- earlier today another shooting I was and so luckily only one did human -- only opponent but one got a smaller and Jacksonville surplus well there's -- copycat killing came point four hours later there's no reporting about the pre planning it's not inconceivable that's what this guy was motivated at least in part motivated by no."
" It's not inconceivable I think that again like they're very different situations the one in Orlando. I think speaks to -- really -- that desperate yes the Financial Times. You know somebody being out of work for a long time I'm feeling. The tremendous stress of having been filed bankruptcy not having jobs those kinds of."
" And new unemployment double and that's all boiling and I guess does not inconceivable. It boils over when you turn on the TV yesterday -- guy. Who went did what you were thinking of doing drugs let's pursue thank you so much real sugar import."