Title: Here and Now for Friday, November 6, 2009

" Support for this podcast comes from UPS. Helping businesses take advantage of opportunities. At UPS dot com slash white board."

" Enigma -- by -- for Robin Young it's here and now. Many questions remain unanswered this afternoon about the shooting at Fort Hood Texas that's left twelve soldiers and one civilian dead. More than thirty people were also wounded in the attack including the primary suspect army psychiatrist major -- constant. He's reportedly on a ventilator in Texas hospital. Officials are not commenting on a motive nor are they confirming that Hasan shouted god is great to before opening fire. We begin today at Fort Hood where Amanda can stare at military editor for the cleaned daily herald joins us an Amanda what's happening there now."

" Right now. In the investigators that the -- trying to assess. Who fired how many shots were fired at least trying to sort out what happened at the site. They don't automatically salesforce right now."

" And the attack happened at a processing center there on at Fort Hood where seem to be deployed soldiers or go to some kind of final. Processing do we know of anything more about what was actually going on inside the room when on the attack took place."

" Definitely a lot of the -- I know that the site it's called soldier readiness processing site."

" And -- indications that the soldiers go through preparation medical checks checking paperwork lectured at certain shots."

" And so they go through this screening how long before they're actually going to be deployed disorders that are about to be sent out."

" It anywhere from. Day. Two weeks at the most certainly not and media."

" Do we know if major Hasan was one of the soldiers that was being processed or why he was there is there any indication."

" Official cannot specifically said what he was doing at the site at -- they did say he was. I'm thinking in upcoming deployment to Afghanistan. So they've left at least that yet he wasn't one of them who are processing to deploy."

" Okay so have officials been able to tell you anything about a motive or whether or not costs and as the primary suspect knew any of the people at the processing centers that were targeted."

" Or will not spoken about motive whatsoever that they have indicated that he got close with the people there. Knowing that he specifically target anyone who I interviewed Cheney."

" And a member of the by the military it was a doctor an emergency your gonna need that at a variety of little -- and then."

" The different places counselors were hit his arms and legs. -- it looked like a random firing he did say that there were a lot of shots fired them."

" It when we are reading reports that it was absolutely chaotic there inside the processing center with several hundred. People amend members of the military. And there's also. Reports that perhaps the confusion at the scene could have led to some misinformation yesterday about. About who who was killed but have. Officials there that you've spoken to at Fort -- have they ruled out weather friendly fire was involved in some of their injuries or deaths."

" Question and we -- being told investigators are looking into after the no confirmation -- denial."

" And -- military officials this morning told the media assets -- two guns were used in the shooting by the by the shooter do we know anything more about what those guns were how they got on and on base there."

" Officials have said there's no indication that these -- military issue -- barrels they do believe that they are his personal weapons."

" For goods orders and an older are about to go impersonal weapons the -- registered -- what are the official. Officials are right now determining whether he actually -- apple are brought and then illegally."

" And and the thirteen people are confirmed having been killed. Twelve of them soldiers there do you have you heard anything more about who they are or -- or about the wounded as well."

" Not at all. We do know that Thursday it was about they update -- at the site. And it was you'll get from all -- post that we're there."

" No unforced could is the largest armored UUS military base in the world and it's got to be incredibly important to the community there. In Coleen how how are people in town reacting how are they doing today."

" Shot is probably that the best word to describe. This is a very close community Fort Hood and the surrounding community very close and support a large retiree population that huge military population. Family right now people are really just. Reaching out and doing all they hand it to help those in need. There's several prayer vigil happening across the communities did yesterday and today and community that has scheduled -- they had opened her blood banks. For donations and they were overrun had to turn people."

" Amanda can stare at his military editor for the clean daily herald Amanda thank you so much for joining us today. Well as we just heard a picture is just beginning to emerge of exactly what happened at Fort Hood. End of the alleged shooter major you don't listen. So who is he and what do we know about him at this point. With us is Washington Post reporter Kristen Davenport he's piecing together Hudson's bio. And Christen the post spoke with Hudson's aunt very recently no well Hudson of Falls Church, Virginia. And she told you that it's Hudson had endured some name calling and harassment about his Muslim faith after. After 9/11 how did she say he took them."

" Well apparently not very well. And I -- to the point where he even considered getting out of the service and wanted to be. Discharge and -- that he even offered to pay the military back for all of the medical training is perceived and that had gone so far as to. Talked to an attorney as well that he would help. He could get out getting out of the services."

" And he had apparently two in the military out of high school and then went to Virginia Tech. As he said that through military funding and then became a psychiatrist. Also in inside the military."

" Did she say. Com when after 9/11 he began talking about trying to get out of the army was as soon after."

" It is somewhat unclear I mean I think it was sort of a long. Running things that dissatisfaction. With the service and then also he had told. Some colleagues -- what he was. Not a real supporter of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Either."

" So -- a period of years has the army been able to confirm whether or not he was trying to seek discharge. Yeah."

" Have not confirmed that at at this point."

" It's worth reminding that Hostin is an American citizen he was born here in the United States in Virginia's Roanoke valley of what -- able to find out about his life and his family there."

" Well it it appears is born in Arlington which is just outside of Washington DC. And grew up in the Roanoke valley of southwestern. Virginia. Where is his parents -- moved. Is father appears to be. Has some businesses. And you know appeared. You know from what we can tell very proud of the the apparently has parents -- not. Want him to join the military."

" And he joined the military right out of high school. And apparently his father died of heart attack in 1998 at the age of fifty to his mother soon thereafter in 2001. From kidney problems but about the the the rest the -- their contradictory reports about where they're from -- they have Palestinian or Jordanian origin what have you been able to find out about."

" Except that that that there they are Palestinian. But at this point you know we're still trying to piece. All of this together it would it would is clear though what we do know is that. I think was very it was a very devout. Moslem and went to. Muslim community center. Regularly in net and silver spring Maryland and we talked to some of the people at that mosque. Who remembered him. That's fairly well one of the things that. Stood out about them is that he would show up prepared sometimes in his army fatigue in his uniform. And you know from what we can tell it was a very. Serious person. Very -- And had this is uninteresting. -- that he had sold out of four I guess with the mosque which detailed. You know his interest it to date and find immediately that this is not married."

" He -- looking for life with that -- to help of the mosque."

" Right right -- on his form he you know he made it very clear that he wanted someone who was deeply. Religious who prayed -- times today. And he talked a little bit about himself and that they you know he as a person was quite reserves and didn't open up. Automatically tell other people in which it. You know what some of his coworkers. But also said in -- instantly as well. We talk to a former coworker is. When he -- to the station that Walter reed army medical center. And served as a psychiatrist in the -- from what we can tell helping helpful. Soldiers and as you know what ultimately they have really have the most severely wounded. Of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. And he would have been -- counseling that. Before he was transferred at Texas and to Fort Hood but what of his co workers there said. He. Wouldn't you know with some standouts -- somewhat isolated. Didn't like you know for example they would have -- Christmas gatherings during the holidays they didn't like to be in photographs. With other other women. There to steer clear there was that one of the coworker says that they. Words so if so keen on sending patients. To be because it is his -- for exclusivity."

" He was counseling some of the most horribly injured. Soldiers who had been. Fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan and did you did he ever speak to his family about. In his thoughts on and on matter how. Seeing those wounded soldiers had an effect on him."

" He did he did it -- told -- effective effective and I've got a great deal. And she talked about. 11 that is the people he would come across in particular who has suffered some really severe. Turn. And she had talked about how that had really it made quite an impact."

" It seems that there's a very interesting and compelling sort of winding track of his his military background but. Off base there's also questions about alleged Internet activities such that the FBI may be began to look into. Internet posts under his name where he. He you're someone under his name allegedly compares suicide bombers to soldiers who saved the life of their comrades and what do we know about these postings."

" Right there there was. Let some postings on on our website under a screen name. The doubt decisions. And you know obviously we don't know if he's the one who made these postings. And on these postings he does he talks about. Suicide bombers. And compared them to a Japanese kamikaze pilots. And how that they were sacrificing themselves for. For greater cause."

" And so it's interesting that there's could potentially be these postings that he made about suicide bombings. CNN is showing video. From yesterday morning where a man allegedly. Major -- sin is at the local 7-Eleven buying coffee wearing traditional Muslim garb and there's also on. As of yet unconfirmed but eyewitness reports that he shouted the Arabic phrase I love blocked by a word god is great just before opening allegedly opening fire. At that processing center. But yet you'll also report that in his army records major has since records or reports no religious preference."

" Yep that's right I mean that's something of a contradiction. He'd be on -- official army record he has no religious preference. But clearly she was it was very devout. And well known that passes mosque in -- that is impacting on the net video at the mean streets and see how to extract. And in the traditional car."

" Washington Post reporter Christian Davenport and one of the reporters on the -- biography of majors. They -- Hudson and she'll be continuing to follow this Christian thank you so much for your time thank you. Just ahead a town in Massachusetts could tell the welcome mat for detainees at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. Saying if they're cleared of terrorism they can resettle there. And also a bit of music from the log back in a minute here and now."

" Funding for here and now comes from the math works creators of -- lab and simulate technical computing software. Dedicated to accelerating the pace of discovery in engineering and science worldwide on the web at math works dot com."

" Welcome back later this month president Barack Obama is expected to announce his plans for prosecuting some of the prisoners at the Guantanamo Bay detention center. Will they be tried in federal court on US soil or face military commissions at the facility. Roughly 215 people are detained at Guantanamo Bay sixty or so are expected to be prosecuted. About eighty are waiting to be released but where will they go. One Massachusetts town has voted in favor of taking some of the detainees from Guantanamo Bay. Although Amber's Massachusetts is known for taking liberal positions on foreign policy. This issue has divided the town here knows -- Becker brings us this report."

" And war. At the -- my special town meeting this week reaching a quorum meant that at least 12310. Meeting members were there to vote. Not exactly huge crowd that in a town where a popular teacher reads -- we're only DH is silent lengthy debate. Is a given especially on an issue like the Guantanamo Bay prison."

" I've certainly been very concerned about what animal. I wanted it to close it. I even demonstrated anything in this Supreme Court a year ago January with my orange jumpsuit on about closing Guantanamo. Long time town meeting member Ruth cook sponsor of the two part non binding resolution on behalf of the newly formed group the pioneer valley no more on time demos. It urges congress to lift the ban on allowing Guantanamo detainees into the US and welcomes the men who are cleared to hammer. Obviously if we're going to close Guantanamo we have to have a place for all of people there you -- well. Why not embarrassed while cook is no stranger to bring foreign policy matters up at ten -- at Guantanamo resolution gained some unlikely."

" Supporters. It's kinda hard to finding cameras what what what a conservative would be I guess but yet I'm considered to be the conservative in hammers."

" Town meeting member of -- Kelly proudly lists his votes opposing -- town meeting articles. But he says this time after being assured that no account services would go to support the detainees he's siding with the left."

" They're real against the town when they canceled westside story when they allowed high school to be the only one in the entire country to perform for giant monologues. But because of my love for. All the things that the flag represents. If these people really didn't do anything -- I have no problem with them living here. And unlike."

" Clean no vote came from select board chairwoman Stephanie O'Keefe. She says she understands the intent of the resolution but if Washington is having trouble figuring out what to do with men it was suspected of being terrorists then how can -- decide."

" I have no expertise on this at all I can only assume that the idea. Cleared detainees is more complicated. Then I understand and town meeting understands so. It yeah feel strongly that at Guantanamo. Situation needs to be fixed they can express that to their congressman to their senators to people who are dealing with all the information about that. --"

" He also finds himself in a different place than usual on this issue he's a member of the -- human rights commission and a victim of torture in Sudan. Amherst Ebert -- says would think differently about welcoming summer night talk show host Rush Limbaugh if all right -- fanatics there's some from. Your own country excuse is like if -- for example. Us for review and taken refuge in analyze everything you -- who signal. Although the resolution does not specify which detainees might come to hammer asked the supporters named two men they say have been cleared but cannot return to their home countries because of possible reprisals. Ebert he says one of the men has a questionable past that should be investigated which the supporters -- But those types of questions made clear -- transit vote no."

" Even if they are all not guilty the fact that they've gone through this experience. I'm not sure emerged as the place where they should come and live this is that does not feel. To me like the next logical jump I would say there's a lot of other work it has to be done to secure the physical and mental help these people."

" The pioneer bailing -- work on -- the most group says as congress figures out how to close Guantanamo by January as promised. That countries should take responsibility for the men it's wrongly imprisoned. The group says it's taking note to of the strong reaction in -- immersed in drafting similar resolutions in communities across the country. That report from here announced Deborah back there."

" This."

" Okay."

" And now an update to our top story president Barack Obama says the whole nation is grieving over the mass killings at Fort Hood in Texas yesterday. A shooting that killed thirteen people one civilian and twelve soldiers."

" From now until veterans day I've ordered the flags at the White House and other federal buildings to be flown. At half staff. This is a modest tribute to those who. Lost their lives even as many were preparing to risk their lives for their country. And it's also recognition of the men and women who put their lives on the line every day. To protect our safety. And uphold our values."

" Obama urged people not to jump to conclusions while law enforcement officials continue to gather facts about the suspected shooter. Majored in Al Hasan who was an army psychiatrist. Major Hasan who is still alive is an American and the Muslim with Palestinian roots. The Associated Press reports that Hasan told a neighbor in downtown Coleen that he was going to be deployed today. And yesterday and the day before he stopped by to offer her furniture from his apartment. And occur not. The cleaned daily herald is reporting neighbors have noticed Hasan had recently taken to wearing Arabic clothing. Despite troubles in his previous job one of his bosses at Fort Hood described him as quote a quiet man who didn't seek the limelight. And she praised him saying up to this point I would consider him an."

" Assets at the base. Monday on here and now the twentieth anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall we'll have a report from Berlin. And for people who get health insurance through their jobs this is the time to rethink your benefits you might wanna do you want the favorite and opened that letter from your employer. That's Monday still ahead today the Supreme Court will -- two cases next year about juvenile justice should teenagers be given a life sentence in prison -- Out the chance for parole. It uses up next now."

" Imagine standing on your streets it's a street you've crossed a thousand times. Now imagine that the city decides to close that streets and you can't cross it and the only way to get to work. To the hospital or to the grocery store is to -- miles up the road where there's another safe crossing. Sounds infuriating doesn't it well that's exactly what's happened on the borders of new York and Vermont right along Lake Champlain. On October 16 inspectors discovered that to appears holding up the Lake Champlain bridge. Had deteriorated. So badly the structure might collapse so. They closed the bridge in definitely. And left thousands of people who use the bridge each day stranded and struggling to figure out how to get across the -- Well joining us from west -- in Vermont is basically DA she's owner of the bridge restaurant and it sits right at the foot of the Lake Champlain umbrage. Lisa welcomed here now. So what does the bridge closure done to your business."

" They can't really estimate in my business considering -- dynamic totally kept looking up at the practical car."

" And this is a time of -- easily have a lot of people that other restaurant."

" A lot of pastor but a lot of regular customers from New York I have an 8020. Split eighteen New York twenty per month."

" And you see that you lost your community you've cut off from roughly half your community from the folks who run that the New York side. -- Lake Champlain is really big it's a 120 miles long. And -- you -- maybe aren't as many places to cross Arnie bridges as you might likes -- can you give us a census to how. The -- has really affected the entire region beyond your business there."

" It is just so cute a lot of New Yorkers work here Vermont. And I mean they're nine hour days to turn thirteen fourteen hour days and in -- other businesses that means. Meaning only to people York relied on our emergency services over here the magnitude of that action flick is sort of an earthquake because -- still feeling."

" You still feeling it and you say that people to the way out of their way to actually get across the lake now some other than the theories that and are running on the water their -- the next place. To cross the leak."

" This series their position like thirty miles north 120 miles south. And other like 200 mile detour."

" Then and so the -- is able to take a ten or twenty cars across at a time and that's for as long as. As the water is is liquidated what do you guys than you do come winter."

" But at the moment nothing is 100% certain but and -- morning along a little bit to the positive side right here at the quarter -- in Britain and the state of Vermont and America working to try to put in -- seventh straight out here but not to open up discord or because this is the main artery. -- all the communities. So they're trying to get -- Jerry in here and have -- 24 hours seven days we."

" But is that very going to be able to run you around and they know it's really."

" Because you're big ice breaker process. Smaller fairy too because -- had 3400%. Force apple -- across separate today."

" From what you describe it seems like the region is really -- struggling and kind of an economic mess right now who do you believe for all this happening to them. So suddenly."

" The quick -- labeling both the state of Vermont and New York, New York was responsible maintained a bridge to that grossly neglected. But on the health and they're not -- that they should've stepped up to the plate and stop the maintenance should've been getting done but it should've been and it wasn't."

" I have to wonder though I knew what kind of choice authorities had because. From what I understand the design of the Lake Champlain bridge is very similar to that bridge that collapsed in Minneapolis and in 2007. And thirteen people died dead and so what are the twins did they have what could -- they've done inning if the bridge was in danger of imminent collapse."

" Well it is that they couldn't move fast that I'm getting something going with a scary stuff here because forties after the -- would close. I had a meeting with our local representatives -- local senators and you know a lot of look into this means they can probably Goodrich Porter hospital. And we got a lot of questions and it fell on deaf ears. And think about three weeks later and now they're picking up by the suggestions and possibly going for with the fairy. You know I I -- move faster -- I think that either state realized how much economic impact and hardship that this created to record in the community."

" Please include GA owns the bridge restaurant in west Addison Vermont. On the side where Vermont has been cut off from neighboring New York State due to the closure of the Lake Champlain. Bridge Lisa thank you so much for joining us and really best of luck to you up there in Vermont. The United States is one of just eleven countries in the world -- sentences children to life in prison without parole. And the US along with Israel are the only two countries that have actually sent children to prison for life. Right now about 2500. Miners between the ages of thirteen and seventeen are serving life sentences in the US. 111. Of them for crimes that never involved homicide. That's according to recent congressional testimony. But the United States Supreme Court could change that next week when it hears two cases of two Florida men who were sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. When they were teens. For more we turn to any -- who writes for the online magazine slate Amy welcomed here in the Amy on Monday the Supreme Court can hear these two separate cases can you sketch -- the basics of what they're gonna here."

" Yes what involves a thirteen year old named Jill Soledad. Convicted. We bring Andy at seventy something year old woman. You've got to convicted of burglary of breaking into her house and other about a seventeen year old boy named. Karen Graham who is convicted of bribery. And was sentenced on the basis of the fact that he violated his probation to settle crime he committed which was burglaries that never actually try -- for --"

" So Joe Sullivan was thirteen at the time he was convicted it's been twenty Murphy twenty years since then he's in his thirties now and and Terrance Graham. It's been many years since he was convicted as. A seventeen year old the course the issue here is that they weren't they were handed these life sentences. Without the possibility. Of parole. When they knew they were juvenile so when the attorneys for Graham and Sullivan's stand before the court what exactly they're going to be arguing."

" They're basically going to be arguing a follow up -- 2005. -- called roper versus Simmons. There the court held it's unconstitutional. To imposed the death penalty on children under the age of eighteen. Brewers -- argued that a life sentence without -- to break juvenile is unconstitutional. For similar reasons. And the recent really laid out by justice Anthony Kennedy and Roeper he explained that children let's blame worth even adults because they're -- to make sure. And their sense of responsibility is not fully developed there are more vulnerable to negative influences like peer pressure. They have no ability to control it to escape. A terrible home more negative environments. As an adult waited Nadal could -- a child is stuck there and so did his contacts there for creates a situation where he's less culpable pretty backing out."

" And part of that lesser culpability comes from emerging neuroscience about juvenile brains."

" Exactly emerging -- science shows that there's a greater chance for rehabilitation and because personality traits and character. Are not fixed these are things that can change over time. Basically what -- as arguing that life without parole. It's like a death sentence it's final it's irreversible. It -- never be fit in society but it doesn't just -- But what neuroscience and social science showed the juvenile to change -- They're not saying these kids shouldn't get punished. They're not saying that we shouldn't put these kids in jail for a very very long time. But that shouldn't should be given the opportunity to have percent -- contribute later in their lives -- some authority. Has been entrusted with making parole decisions. Dotted all the -- not arguing that children should be released from prison."

" Both cases came out of Florida what is the state of Florida can argue in front of the court."

" This state of Florida he's gonna say this these may be juvenile but these kids did adult crime as the saying goes adult crime adult time. And that -- that case I mentioned that just -- Kennedy wrote. Oprah doesn't apply because this case involved life without parole and that this is not a decade and the state can do what they want when death is not an issue."

" Maybe it's worth taking a step back at the moment and just sort of looking at what exactly is the process of of trying juveniles in this country who gets the decision on what sentenced to go after and what. Charges to bring it center."

" It's different from every state. In some places the prosecutor have to go to for the judge and get a waiver for example they -- the circumstances -- This kid has monster tendencies. Therefore I see and you know as somebody who. We should block away for a very long period of time and not be able to be let out when he's eighteen at the juvenile. But in some places like Florida the prosecutor and very little check on him it's very easy to bring things in adult court for example on the case suggest -- the prosecutor never even when it came time to sentencing have to really describe who this kid was what his mental ability was when Stanley situation lies. Whether it ever got any good things went past crimes and actually works."

" In looking at his trial in particular you -- some pretty deep research and not only did you raise questions about sort of prosecutorial. Decision making in what -- to go after but the trial itself and that maybe he didn't even receive a fair -- it just briefly go over the."

" Yet his child and I spent the past eight years writing about courts across America and the kind of just just a regular people recede I had not seen a trial. Transcript like that's his lawyer made no opening statement. Hitler made a couple of think statement there was only a few lines along. -- never properly questioned the two other witnesses against him who were his friends there was no real checking of the facts in this case. And just -- maintained his innocence and yes he may he may not be innocent but he never really had a lawyer who tried to bring out the facts of what really happened."

" Well Joe Sullivan and Terrance Graham as we mentioned earlier. Are to us some 2500. Juveniles are serving life sentences in. The United States now and it's actually worth mentioning that on every one of these convictions there were victims on the other end who would probably very happy to see some form. Of justice done but on the other hand what's really going on in the world of jurisprudence it's brought all these juvenile justice issues to the Supreme Court recently."

" Well I think part of that history that you -- early ninety's there's a huge spike in juvenile crime. At the same time. And the biggest thing in the adult system was getting simultaneously. -- this all the talk about a -- credit card. -- the super predators is very dangerous person to return to lock them up and throw away the key. And they began to beat these these slogans adult crime adult time and do the kind of political will. That made states changed their laws to make sure to Cuban out couldn't get out when they were died at age eighteen."

" What do experts you've talked to think may come out of of these two cases that the courts can hear."

" I -- K -- experts are really split on the flight and some people are saying that Joseph Sullivan's case. Their only Q individuals serving life without parole for a non homicide offense. At age thirteen and -- lot of people have great hope that the court major offensive line and say well. There's something like this that if sell out there are still out of proportion to what everybody else in America is doing there's a problem we don't want. Trotting in at least thirteen going for like about possible -- on the -- Supreme Court may drop some sort of line -- in -- very. To get a certain age it's not okay and -- for kids over a certain age. Maybe perhaps seventeen. Dealt with a different somehow. That it's a concept nobody knows."

" Well Amy buck writes for the online magazines sleep. She's also author of ordinary injustice how America holds court -- thank you so much for joining us so much."

" Support for here now comes in part from the school foundation supporting social entrepreneurs around the world uncommon heroes dedicated to the common good. Learn more at school dot org welcome back to here and now. Back. There now."

" Okay."

" Indie rockers the walk men have known each other for a long time since they were kids. -- music has grown along with them -- critics have called the New York based band masters of moody rock driven by growling vocals. Others have compared yourself to Bob Dylan and YouTube. But recently the -- have Miller. As the age have kids what was once a new easier or harder rock is giving way to lighter throwback -- Carrying."

" The walkman -- on the road right now in Syria knows Jill Bryant caught up with them at a recent concert in Cambridge and under -- Hamilton who lighthouse national Hilton points makes him sound like a handsome suitor serenading his love."

" Action -- anything from a dark room to wait points something that everything concert in congress that -- it. But fans who -- morning."

" They played like it was the last show they were ever going to play in their lives pan. They put everything that happened. Have potentially make myself stop listening to -- is. Of listening to make every day -- place today. And I did when they get myself like -- the album you remind me a little bit like. Like they're very Dylan inspired I think that Bob Dole and if you saw me feel like I was -- like."

" Life's hazards and blocked. Came together in 2000 out of the ashes of two other Indian groups and the -- emerged was all -- angry guitars from -- two -- Like what you hear in their 2004. Hit single the rat. Chosen as one of the twenty best out of that decade by the music website pitchfork."

" But that was back. Now band members are older somewhere. In lighthouses and the walkman are shifting their direction."

" The hard rockers are like from our earlier records the ones we like planner of the -- are swinging your shuffle the kind of stuff. His life and it's breezy. Sound familiar hard rock bands. Don't over the hill to. --"

" Okay. Hey."

" It security we have also break in the black men move their 2002 debut album title every one. And you like me. Thank you name it content through green -- like seven years -- Donate style up my dad and kaine saying -- and -- and in the news."

" Eleven when you're younger women maybe get more tennis is -- negative as it sounds cool and it says here owner it's you know does not appropriate to be positive."

" That's darkness while Caremark and he says growing up with something much of the -- together while attending the same grade school in Washington DC. -- says they even started -- rock band in the fifth grade."

" Matter drummer and joined us in the seventh grade. And then Paul. Joy in this tournament period so have a live doesn't CNN Tyler like twenty years."

" Guitarist Palmer room jokes that the group's sound has only gotten worse and send. When he imitated just type of English white reggae inspired by the Jamaican Scott style. Now -- and sites Roy Orbison and Elvis is influences. Which may explain a bit of the walkman swaying throwback sound."

" So yeah I'm more facts then I think we use anything that could. That would have been -- forty years ago. We -- from any era of rock moments."

" Okay. He."

" Okay."

" Okay. Yeah."

" To get that time Moscow London route planes hollow body electric time like The Beatles did in the air -- days. The band recently added the parents section. And another signature sound comes from me fifty year old upright piano that adds a journalist twinkle."

" Perhaps even more vintage in the walkman for low tech recording style. He just point to microphone as an instrument and he used in music and speeches underwater he. Walter -- especially here tonight in their first album."

" The sound like it was a group -- but -- sort of guided. And so we agreed to it's easy duplicate. Is not -- it but it's very very isn't."

" What's not DC says guitarist Palmer who is bloody -- few hundred pound upright piano around the country."

" He dropped one once. The back of our truck. And it it went into the right like 5000 pieces and this big cloud of dust mop up and it better than those street is really didn't clean it -- either."

" But they'll lock you played on and -- hazards of pro life the long van rides and sharing one backstage bathroom with a dozen others. All seemed to melt away when the -- meet their adoring fans."

" I think it at the parking lot of good and there are something ordinances like. -- living the dream his place in the middle aged guy in his late does that again it's hardly static on the sailors. And guys are awesome group piling into the."

" So it's Walter Martin the walk for more on the band go to our website here -- dot our story was produced by your -- Jill Russian. He knows the production of WBUR Boston in association with the BBC world service and PRI's I'm -- Tucker party Robin Young is back on Monday -- again here and now."

" This. Funding for here and now comes from the math works creators of -- loud and simulate technical computing software on the web at math works dot com."

" Radio international."